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laaf
Throwing the 145 around as one should seems to be accompanied by a loud thud from the rear at the moment as the CD changer flies across the boot no3.gif

I've tried velcro which seems to come unstuck. (The velcro bit is fine, the glue lets go)

Are there any other good mounting possibilities anyone has found?
How did the factory install the changers?
GialloEvo94
IIRC you have the Sony 10-Disc Changer which were fitted to the facelifts. This is mounted just under the O/S parcel shelf support with metal brackets. I don't have any pictures to hand but I think I do on my PC at home so I'll post them later when I get in from work. If you didn't get the brackets with your changer then I'm sure it would be fairly straight forward to make some universal ones fit or even make up your own brackets from sheet metal.
jam
yeah what GialloEvo94 said there are four holes on the under side of the parcel shelf bit on the offside, i made my self some ali brackets that screw to them and to the multi changer.
gman145
Agreed.

There was metal brackets available for mounting CD changers onto the side of the inside of the boots area, off the floor.

Another option, other than velcro is to mount it onti the back of your seats. Use the brackets that came with the changer (easy to get if you not got them) and screw it to the back of ur seats.

Option 3..
Get a piece of wood, put on something underneath it (underlay or strip of carpet, it stops it from moving), then screw the changer down onto then, but through the boots carpet.
As this boot carpet don't move around, nor will the changer. this should keep it steady.

Either way.. make sure you adjust the angle setting to match.

Hope that helps mate!
laaf
Thanks for your help.
It is the 10 disc Sony changer and I've never seen the factory mounting technique.
I've had a dig around and don't know quite how the factory changer would mount, and I seem to have lost the brackets from the changer along the way as well.

This is what is there at the moment. Any photos gratefully received rolleyes.gif

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GialloEvo94
Here is the Sony CD Changer mounting setup (click for bigger pics)...

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laaf
That's superb.
Thanks very much. smile.gif

It shouldn't be too hard to put something similar together.
GialloEvo94
If you want to make exact copies of the brackets then let me know and I'll measure all the relevant actual dimensions at the weekend and post them up here for you smile.gif
laaf
QUOTE(GialloEvo94 @ Sep 14 2006, 10:56 PM) *
If you want to make exact copies of the brackets then let me know and I'll measure all the relevant actual dimensions at the weekend and post them up here for you smile.gif


Thanks for the offer. That would be great. I have some sheet metal so putting these together should be nice & easy. smile.gif
purple
mine was the earlier Philips type and that was mounted on brackets and screwd straight onto the floor. There is just enough room between the wheel arch and where the carpet comes up to access the spare wheel well.

That said GE solution looks more elegant, don't have to bend down as much
GialloEvo94
QUOTE(laaf @ Sep 15 2006, 06:29 AM) *
Thanks for the offer. That would be great. I have some sheet metal so putting these together should be nice & easy. smile.gif

These bracket diagrams are all on a 1:1 scale (dimensions in millimetres) so if you want to you can just print off the undimensioned ones and use them as a template smile.gif The thickness of the sheet steel on the original factory brackets is 2mm.

(click for full 1:1 size versions)
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producedapples
Not bein nasty, but, im very against cd changers...i mean, ur limited to the cd selection, whether it be 6 or 10. i find a better option is either a single load mp3 head unit or a normal single load, with plenty of cd's to hand.... dunno...maybe its jus me!!
GialloEvo94
QUOTE(producedapples @ Sep 18 2006, 09:49 PM) *
Not bein nasty, but, im very against cd changers...i mean, ur limited to the cd selection, whether it be 6 or 10. i find a better option is either a single load mp3 head unit or a normal single load, with plenty of cd's to hand.... dunno...maybe its jus me!!

Nah...it's great fun watching your missus scramble around through the back seats trying to change the CD cartridge while you're hammering along the motorway laugh.gif
laaf
QUOTE(GialloEvo94 @ Sep 16 2006, 12:05 PM) *
These are all on a 1:1 scale (dimensions in millimetres) so if you want to you can just print off the undimensioned ones and use them as a template smile.gif The thickness of the sheet steel on the original factory brackets is 2mm.

Thanks coolio.gif
I'm going to print them, cut them out and use them as templates. Let me know if I can return the favour. I'll post up some photos when they're done. rolleyes.gif
laaf
QUOTE(producedapples @ Sep 18 2006, 09:49 PM) *
NOt bein nasty, but, im very against cd changers...i mean, ur limited to the cd selection, whether it be 6 or 10. i find a better option is either a single load mp3 head unit or a normal single load, with plenty of cd's to hand.... dunno...maybe its jus me!!


I agree, MP3 is so much easier, quicker, tidier, etc. but the Sony head unit needs to think there's a CD changer attached before you can feed the Aux inputs. And the sound of a CD is definitely cleaner.
producedapples
QUOTE(GialloEvo94 @ Sep 18 2006, 10:18 PM) *
Nah...it's great fun watching your missus scramble around through the back seats trying to change the CD cartridge while you're hammering along the motorway laugh.gif

laugh.gif whilst saying ...'cmon, u not dun it yet...' when u know fair well that she aint!!
producedapples
QUOTE(laaf @ Sep 18 2006, 10:24 PM) *
I agree, MP3 is so much easier, quicker, tidier, etc. but the Sony head unit needs to think there's a CD changer attached before you can feed the Aux inputs. And the sound of a CD is definitely cleaner.



NAh i meant a cd headunit that recognizes the mp3 format on cd.. u can welly on about 30 albums on cd, 192k as bitrate and as clear as cd (soz if i sounded like i meant an external mp3 player lol)
sweens308
.....or just hook up your iPod via the aux-in with the dock connector.

The sound quality is then proper 'line-out', so just as good as an MP3 disc, no faffing around with the iPod volume control and no discs cluttering up the place!
laaf
QUOTE(sweens308 @ Sep 18 2006, 11:03 PM) *
.....or just hook up your iPod via the aux-in with the dock connector.

The sound quality is then proper 'line-out', so just as good as an MP3 disc, no faffing around with the iPod volume control and no discs cluttering up the place!


Hi Sweens, do you know where to get hold of a dock connector?
laaf
QUOTE(GialloEvo94 @ Sep 16 2006, 12:05 PM) *
These are all on a 1:1 scale (dimensions in millimetres) so if you want to you can just print off the undimensioned ones and use them as a template smile.gif

EDIT: Forgot to add that the thickness of the sheet steel on the original factory brackets is 2mm. Also added some missing dimensions.

I didn't realise what a beautiful piece of work the drawings are! And the weirdest thing is that they printed out exactly to scale.

It seems like cheating to cut them out & draw round them whistle.gif

Thanks again.
GialloEvo94
QUOTE(laaf @ Sep 23 2006, 02:59 PM) *
I didn't realise what a beautiful piece of work the drawings are! And the weirdest thing is that they printed out exactly to scale.

It seems like cheating to cut them out & draw round them whistle.gif

That's exactly why I did them on a 1:1 scale which meant they would print out to the actual size wink.gif I had to do the dimensioned ones first to get the correct sizing then I just removed the dimension markers to create the blank templates smile.gif I'm glad they're of some use biggrin.gif
laaf
Here are the brackets I made. They fitted well with no re-drilling needed.

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I had to fold one end of the bracket to reinforce it a bit but it is all solid enough. It was just a case of cutting round your drawings and then permanent markering the outline onto the metal.

Thanks again. smile.gif
Alfamet
Just wondering; although this topic deals with the 145, are these brackets the same as those used in the 146?
GialloEvo94
QUOTE(Alfamet @ 29th October 2009 18:59) *
are these brackets the same as those used in the 146?

They're the same type of brackets but on the 146 the dimensions are actually different. I'm afraid I don't have access to any 146 brackets so I can't tell you exactly how much different they are. You could always just try making some the same as the 145 ones and see if they are good enough to do the job even though they won't be exactly the same as the originals.
rdanny
ignore the hooks its a good place save em lol, thats mine anyway 145 tho

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Alfamet
Thanks for the replies guys.

I'll make up some brackets to the dimensions shown on the templates and take it from there. The intention is for my 146 to have the CD changer mounted in the same position in the boot as the 145 as it looks neat and tidy and does the job.

My 146 is going to have the same Sony CDX changer unit as fitted at the factory on 145s so what would be really useful is to know the clear dimension between the inside faces of the projecting arms of the brackets that the CD changer is bolted to.

If I can find out what this measurement is, then I'm sure I could adapt the 145 templates to suit my 146. Would someone on here be willing and able to measure the clear space between the arms of the standard set up on their 145 and let me know what this dimension is please? It'd certainly help and be very much appreciated!

Many thanks.
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