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jasons
I've just picked up a brochure for my model year of Cloverleaf.

On the list of standard equipment is stated as having a remote control alarm system.

This is news to me!!

Can anyone tell me how to tell if I have? I dont have a button on my key if that helps!!

Cheers,

Jason
CTRdude
If you have your manual, will tell you where (don't want to post exact location).
jasons
Okay..it doesnt appear to have one!

Should it?- I mean the brochure is for a 96 model year, and my car is a 97.

confused now..........
F355
Its on a seperate fob via Infra red and they are crap thats why somebody has chucked away the fob.
F355
This is what they look like

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pimp
It will be a Philips alarm.

The control box is in the boot, on the drivers side in the corner underneath the carpet. There is a door cut in to the carpet.

But I didn't think these where IR but RF. I still have my old keys some where.
pimp
Here is the 1st style key and a Philips alarm remote...

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Here is a Burgundy Master Key...

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jasons
Thanks for the help guys,

Appreciated.


J
F355
QUOTE(pimp @ Jul 7 2005, 08:28 PM)
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Here is the 1st style key and a phillips alarm thingy.

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Here is a Red Key, i.e the master one.
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Yours is a bit of a hodge podge. Later style master key, early style main key and what look like aftermarket fobs??

The fobs are IR and are the same as my picture.
purple
Mine is different again. My master key, 1996 qv, has a burgandy square top, with that shape red key and' after market' look Philips alarm.
F355
Should either be:

Square Bergandy Master + Red key with no button + Fob (IR)

or

Curvy Bergandy Master + Red key with button (RF)


They must have done something different with the 145 and fitted an aftermarket style alarm? I expect Pimp has had an ECU change somewhere along the line?
Crazy Cabbage
*coughs* Mine has 2 red keys without buttons, one burgendy square master key, and fobs simalar to the black alfa ones, but mine are Meta, i believe these were fitted in the dock? The alarm unit is under the bonnet on mine. Mine a '96 boxer, BTW
F355
QUOTE(Crazy Cabbage @ Jul 7 2005, 09:34 PM)
*coughs* Mine has 2 red keys without buttons, one burgendy square master key, and fobs simalar to the black alfa ones, but mine are Meta, i believe these were fitted in the dock? The alarm unit is under the bonnet on mine. Mine a '96 boxer, BTW
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Yes you should have 2 normal non master keys.

I think this is another thing Alfa made up as they went along!

Did anyone get a key for the alarm?? I have 2 different keys only one works! The mind boggles laugh.gif
purple
Forgot, I got a different key again for the alarm. Its the Philips alarm that was fitted at the docks to supplement the Alfa CODE system in the early cars. Later ones had an integrated system fitted at the factory.
pimp
QUOTE(F355 @ Jul 7 2005, 08:33 PM)
QUOTE(pimp @ Jul 7 2005, 08:28 PM)
[attachment=420:attachment]
Here is the 1st style key and a phillips alarm thingy.

[attachment=421:attachment]
Here is a Red Key, i.e the master one.
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Yours is a bit of a hodge podge. Later style master key, early style main key and what look like aftermarket fobs??

The fobs are IR and are the same as my picture.
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No its not a hodge podge.

I have had two 145's a erly one 1st pic (no red key). and the 2nd pic is for the later 145. With the later one i have the same shape key with a button on the side.

Can every one please take a picture of your keys (that we don't have all ready) and then we can start a post with all the types of keys and alarm, then we can be sure which is the ones we are talking about.
bobda
Pimpy, your first alarm fob (yellow button) doesn't look like an official Alfa one.
purple
That yellow button one was fitted by Alfa UK in the docks to satisfy British insurers who felt that the CODE system was not sufficient (as we all know it is more than sufficent at being bloody inconvenient to those who own their Alfas). Hence the after market look, but it was supplied as standard, got the booklet with the manual. Mine is the same as PIMPs top picture, early qv. Alarm long since broken though and Philips no longer make car alarms.
F355
Here is the early bergandy key and the two alarm disabling keys:

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pimp
Early cars had these keys and either a black Alfa alarm fob or the Philips one...



Yes these are the ones I have but with the yellow Philips alarm fob...



The later cars had this style burgundy master key and the same style normal key in red with a button on the side (same as the 156)...

Crazy Cabbage
I have the early keys, with no buttons, yet my remote is a meta one. I've been told it was 'factory fitted' IE the car came with it.....but it doesnt open the doors?

The unit itself is under the bonnet.

Also, it haven't got, nor does it ever look to have had a unit in the boot.

1996 boxer 8v?
norro
ive got a 1994 1.6 boxer, black keys, and the alarm fob with yellow button on..........is there anyway of getting replacment fobs??
145-BR
I have two main keys, one of them works fine, but the other is not recognized by the code.

I'm about to try memorizing the keys following the procedure indicated by the workshop manual, you know, inserting the master key for less than 2 sec, than one main key within 10 sec, etc.

Have you guys done this procedure already? Is it safe? I don't want to end up with all keys non functional. What are the odds?

Another thing:

At the end of the memorizing procedure it says "Keep the master key in the STOP position for 4-9 seconds, do not leave the key in the STOP position for over 10 seconds or all the memorized codes are deleted".

My question: should I turn the key to the MARCIA position before 10 sec. or remove the key from the barrel??
GialloEvo94
I've never done the CODE programming sequence myself for adding a new key or reprogramming an existing key (simply because both my normal red keys have always worked fine...if it's not broke don't try to fix it) so I can't say for ure what happens but if you have a working MASTER key and you screw something up then in the worst case you will just have to reprogram the keys again from scratch.

If you decide to try, let us know how you get on smile.gif
145-BR
QUOTE(GialloEvo94 @ 15th June 2007 20:09) *
I've never done the CODE programming sequence myself for adding a new key or reprogramming an existing key (simply because both my normal red keys have always worked fine...if it's not broke don't try to fix it) so I can't say for ure what happens but if you have a working MASTER key and you screw something up then in the worst case you will just have to reprogram the keys again from scratch.

If you decide to try, let us know how you get on smile.gif


Thanks GE, I'm gonna try, but what about the last think to do in the procedure, what do you figure? Remove the key from barrel or turn to Marcia? unsure.gif
145-BR
OK, I did it!

Amazing, it DOES work! Piece of cake! smile.gif

It took me less than 30 seconds, and now both my keys are working. Still can't believe. I didn't know it could be done without going to a dealer and paying lots of cash. Not untill this morning when I found the instructions here in this GREAT Forum. worshippy.gif

As for my question:

QUOTE(145-BR @ 15th June 2007 15:30) *
At the end of the memorizing procedure it says "Keep the master key in the STOP position for 4-9 seconds, do not leave the key in the STOP position for over 10 seconds or all the memorized codes are deleted".

My question: should I turn the Master key to the MARCIA position before 10 sec. or remove the key from the barrel??


The answear is remove the key from the barrel, at least that worked for me.

Cheers! smile.gif
GialloEvo94
Nice one thumbsup.gif Saved an hour of rip-off labour charges at the stealers biggrin.gif

Removing the key was also my interpretation of the workshop manual which I was just replying to you with last night when my PC decided to crash and blue-screen rant.gif ...so I got p**sed off and just went to bed sleep.gif
145-BR
QUOTE(GialloEvo94 @ 16th June 2007 05:20) *
Nice one thumbsup.gif Saved an hour of rip-off labour charges at the stealers biggrin.gif

Removing the key was also my interpretation of the workshop manual which I was just replying to you with last night when my PC decided to crash and blue-screen rant.gif ...so I got p**sed off and just went to bed sleep.gif


Thanks GE! Don't you love those alfa electronics? wink.gif
AR 145
QUOTE(145-BR @ 16th June 2007 01:36) *
OK, I did it!

Amazing, it DOES work! Piece of cake! smile.gif

It took me less than 30 seconds, and now both my keys are working. Still can't believe. I didn't know it could be done without going to a dealer and paying lots of cash. Not untill this morning when I found the instructions here in this GREAT Forum. worshippy.gif

As for my question:
The answear is remove the key from the barrel, at least that worked for me.

Cheers! smile.gif



Hi mate, apologies for digging up such an old thread, however I need some help as I have only one key with my car, as well as the master key. I have bought a blank key, just had it cut but the immobiliser is preventing it form starting the engine.

Can you explain exactly how you got your new key coded to the car please?

Many Thanks
Barry
QUOTE(AR 145 @ 22nd March 2008 15:17) *
Hi mate, apologies for digging up such an old thread, however I need some help as I have only one key with my car, as well as the master key. I have bought a blank key, just had it cut but the immobiliser is preventing it form starting the engine.

The blank you just bought, was it an unprogrammed one from aftermarket? if so its easiest to clone it from the working key.
If its an aftermarket and already cloned from your existing key, then the transponder is insensitive.
If its a genuine Alfa key then just load it in as described earlier.
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