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langers
Right, its still knocking a little bit at the back, but not as much with the stiffer rear shockers on. Iv just been down the road in here (Even though i shouldnt with the meds i am on but ssh). The fronts are giving now. Pulling slightly to the right under heavy acceleration and dramitically to the right under heave braking. Also the steering is a bit pants. All symtoms of worn wishbones.

I just want to compile a list and places to that when i do have the funds i can buy them. Also, can somebody do a write up on the fitting instructions? Do i burn the rubbers out of my current arms and press in the new poly's? I dont know.

Anyways, the list that will sharpen the handling and steering (Please add to it if you know where things are cheaper etc):

Front Wishbone Bushes:
Price: 99.71 for 2 sets.
From: http://www.superflex.co.uk/products.php?cat=13

Front ARB Bushes:
Price: 23.44
From: http://www.superflex.co.uk/products.php?cat=13

New Drop Links:
Price: 15.74 x 2 = 31.48
From: http://www.shop4parts.co.uk/?name=store&am...64&sku=9396

Rear Radius Arm Bush & Bearing Kit:
Price: 18.94 x 2 = 37.88
From: http://www.shop4parts.co.uk/?name=store&am...97&sku=2832

Rear ARB Bushes:
Price: ????
From: ????

Rear Pivot Pads (Where the subframe attaches to the chasis of the car)
Price: ????
From: ????
buellboy
i've got a set of un-touched ebay LHS and RHS wishbones that i bought in error...+ the wishbones from the car i broke.

Only looking for 20 for both LHS and RHS a saving of 18
930Tech
The anti roll bar drop links are only about 8 each from sutton auto factors, you have a branch in lincoln.

Whilst in there the have a supplier, firstline i think who list the rear subframe bushes, ask them to look, not too sure how they'd fit because on the original they are like bonded in.

On the front bottom arm bushes you can burn them out, or do as i did, one nearly fell out on its own, the others i loosened by drilling the rubber part to remove the metal bracket, this can then be cleaned up with a sharp knife then a wire brush attachment on a drill.

To get the sleeve off the arm i used a grinder but be careful as you get through it not to damage the arm itself.

Then you may need a press to push on the new bushes.
langers
The last 1/2 of that went straight over my head Wayne. Do i have to fit poly bushes to a NEW arm? or can i do it to my current dodgy ones?

Which sleeve are you refering to? The Radius arm one?
GialloEvo94
QUOTE(langers @ 7th November 2009 18:35) *
Do i have to fit poly bushes to a NEW arm? or can i do it to my current dodgy ones?

Which sleeve are you refering to? The Radius arm one?

You can fit poly bushes to the old arms but bear in mind that you will still have the old ball joint. IMO better yo get new arms if you do this job because you then have new (poly) bushes and a new ball joint. Might as well start off with everything new smile.gif

The sleeve is the inner part of the bush that the rubber is bonded to (the metal tube in the centre of the bush that goes over the wishbone arm pin). Once you've burned the rubber out you will be left with that tube still (tightly) fitted over the tube so you will need to use a cutting disc on a dremel or very carefully use an angle grinder to cut a slit along the length of that tube after which you will then simply just be able to peel off the wishbone pin smile.gif
930Tech
As above thumbup.gif

And there are no rear anti roll bar bushes, its mounted solidly by a metal bracket
langers
Nice one guys. Im sure that all will become apparent when i finally get round to buying things.

What about the pad things that the rear subframe has when connecting to the chasis?
langers
Anybody know what the stardard ARB size is? Im sure its 22mm but would like to confirm.
fer145
More prices (some expensives) http://www.superpropoly.de/functions/katal...amp;verbauort=F
langers
Jst a link for you guys... iv finally found a UK site for poly drop links

http://www.priracing.com/section.php/263/1/145--146--155
930Tech
QUOTE(langers @ 4th October 2010 17:13) *
Jst a link for you guys... iv finally found a UK site for poly drop links

http://www.priracing.com/section.php/263/1/145--146--155


The ones for a Saab 9000 (same as an Alfa 164) fit a 145 and are around 14 for a set of poly bushes from a Saab specialists.

Not sure why your listing says 6 bushes and two tubes unless it's also for the part that goes on the end of the anti roll bar.
NaanBread
can this be put in the FAQ section as i will be looking for similar things soon biggrin.gif and Im sure this will be of use to many others.
GialloEvo94
QUOTE(NaanBread @ 5th October 2010 00:26) *
can this be put in the FAQ section as i will be looking for similar things soon biggrin.gif and Im sure this will be of use to many others.

Done smile.gif
NaanBread
awesome! thanks GE smile.gif
langers
QUOTE(E500 TAT @ 4th October 2010 21:59) *
The ones for a Saab 9000 (same as an Alfa 164) fit a 145 and are around 14 for a set of poly bushes from a Saab specialists.

Not sure why your listing says 6 bushes and two tubes unless it's also for the part that goes on the end of the anti roll bar.



I would have thought it would include the part that slips on to the ARB aswell yes...but we shall see when i eventually purchase some.

I just need to find a good link for a strut brace now...then continue saving...
langers
Im starting to collate links for strut braces aswell....

Front Strut Braces:
http://www.ybracing.co.uk/page1.php?sitepa...17&part=141

Rear Strut Braces:

Lowering Springs:
http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m14b0s836p0
http://www.kityourcarout.com/view-product.aspx?productid=331


Front Shockers:
http://www.fk-automotive.org.uk/websale7/F...t_index=10-2834

Rear Shockers:



Sod it.... making a list for the lot...will give me something to do before my lights turn up for the garage. Will continue this tonight... please add to the list and i shall sort it all out later... will do the bushes aswell.
fer145
Good idea.

-Strut bar front http://www.ultraracing.com.my/Bars.asp?ID=3422

-Strut bar rear http://www.ultraracing.com.my/Bars.asp?ID=3514

-Front Lower bar 4 points http://www.ultraracing.com.my/Bars.asp?ID=2102

-Rear Anti-roll Bar 23mm http://www.ultraracing.com.my/Bars.asp?ID=2708

Poly for 147,156,33, etc http://www.strong-flex.eu/index.php




NaanBread
revival!

Im looking for rear subframe bushes for 155 (which i presume is the same as a 145) and I cant find any???? sad.gif


do I have to get some solid ones made?

GialloEvo94
QUOTE(NaanBread @ 7th June 2012 18:11) *
revival!

Im looking for rear subframe bushes for 155 (which i presume is the same as a 145) and I cant find any???? sad.gif
do I have to get some solid ones made?

Fiat Bravo/Brava ones fit. eBay is your friend wink.gif
kirk46
QUOTE(NaanBread @ 7th June 2012 18:11) *
revival!

Im looking for rear subframe bushes for 155 (which i presume is the same as a 145) and I cant find any???? sad.gif
do I have to get some solid ones made?



solid ones.....

Wayne is for friend for thos....

not cheap mind..

EDIT: just realised you put do you have to have some made laugh.gif
phri
Any update on this?
NaanBread
If your looking for Rear subframe bushes, Firstline do the front bushes I think, but no one appears to do the rears for an Alfa. But it turns out that Fiat Punto rear bushes fit! So I can imagine over the coming years this will start becoming a problem for a 145 like it has for the 155, so theres your answer. Fiat do sell them.
buellboy
QUOTE(NaanBread @ 3rd October 2012 11:04) *
If your looking for Rear subframe bushes, Firstline do the front bushes I think, but no one appears to do the rears for an Alfa. But it turns out that Fiat Punto rear bushes fit! So I can imagine over the coming years this will start becoming a problem for a 145 like it has for the 155, so theres your answer. Fiat do sell them.

The fiat coupe boys have also got a special order for powerflex/superflex bushes at around 70. Ask AlfaSA for details.
NaanBread
Ive gone against polybushes recently, I dont really see the point, and no one ever notices the difference!! Shocks, springs and ARB will be enough to keep a car planted with OEM bushes. But for that price, it will probs be worth it if your subframe is in bits anyway lol
GialloEvo94
QUOTE(NaanBread @ 3rd October 2012 12:13) *
Ive gone against polybushes recently, I dont really see the point, and no one ever notices the difference!! Shocks, springs and ARB will be enough to keep a car planted with OEM bushes. But for that price, it will probs be worth it if your subframe is in bits anyway lol

Poly bushes don't wear out so generally speaking, once fitted you never need to replace them again, unlike rubber which just perishes and disintegrates over time.
AR 145
I ordered the rear subframe bushes from a fiat coupe specialist.

If you need some let me know and ill dig out who I ordered them from.. Cant remember off the top of my head
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