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shpuncik
post 10th April 2017 08:43
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hello,

I'm trying to retrofit stalk illumination on late 145 however can't find any pictures or how-to how to disassembly stalk unit. Maybe someone around here has any pictures?

thanks in advance
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dante giacosa
post 10th April 2017 10:18
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Hey shpuncik,

I'm not sure the pictures exist any more- I was looking yesterday on this very topic; there are old threads on this, but I think the associated images have long since expired or been deleted.

It might be worth trying to source FIAT Tipo column stalks which are already illuminated, and apparently the same...
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post 10th April 2017 15:46
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I guess we were looking at the same threads in Spanish forum with broken image links.

It seems I'll have to figure out how to disassemble levers - so far have removed end button, can see PCB inside however don't know how to move further to remove those "rings" from lever.

When done will post my progress
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post 10th April 2017 22:22
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Yes- we might have been looking at the same thread!

Well- good luck with it; and try for pictures; I still think the desire for this knowledge exists out there...!
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post 11th April 2017 09:57
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I contacted the author of the original thread last September and he promised to send me a copy of the photos which I was then intending to attach to the original post. Unfortunately he never got back to me so I've just sent a reminder. There is no guarantee I will get a reply but if I do then I'll be sure to let you know.


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post 11th April 2017 12:57
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Hey- that's terrific and very kind GE- Thankyou
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post 12th April 2017 00:35
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I've got the complete thread!

Here are the pics you are looking for. Enjoy..

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Hope this helps. It was a really good thread and good to see all the pics again.

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post 12th April 2017 04:32
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Wow!

I can't believe the footage!

Gosh- I'll have to try and soak this stuff up to work out what's going on!

THANKYOU!

Can you say, in the first instance, what it took to open the column stalks themselves..?

Is this something, you have actually 'done' yourself, Ganz...?
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post 12th April 2017 10:40
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QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 12th April 2017 05:32) *
Wow!

I can't believe the footage!

Gosh- I'll have to try and soak this stuff up to work out what's going on!

THANKYOU!

Can you say, in the first instance, what it took to open the column stalks themselves..?

Is this something, you have actually 'done' yourself, Ganz...?


No probs. Not done it myself but have actually got a spare pair of stalks. Was looking at them the other day for a source for my vdo gauges. I can have a look at them tonight and get some pics.

The Spanish guy who did all the leds unfortunately did not produce a wiring diagram and the pictures were never in high res. Pretty cool though. I'm thinking of getting it done myself.

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post 12th April 2017 13:29
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Well, that's interesting.

I don't need a wiring diagram as such- stringing together a load of LEDs shouldn't be a problem- it's just how to get 'em apart...

Are those pictures from the Spanish guys' thread, yeah..?

Not sure I'd go for blue-LEDs myself!

How do you mean you were looking at them as a source for the VDO gauges, Ganz...?
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post 12th April 2017 15:05
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Many thanks for the pictures. However main problem is how do you get to the point as shown in first picture - how do you remove whole PCB from inside lever. As far as I can see, each round switch on lever (the ones which you turn) has under the rubber some kind of metal pin. Currently strugling to remove this pin. I don't want to brake lever although I've got set of spare ones. So trying to do it as neetly as possible.

As for the wiring it's no problem. Official wiring diagrams show illuminated stalks. As far as I remember phase 3 comes pre-wired, just the stalk itself is missing LEDs on PCB and one wire.

After succesful disassembly I'm planing to disassemble mine phase one Boxer stalks to see how original PCB looks with factory fitted LEDs
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Have you got more than one car, shpuncik...?
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QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 12th April 2017 14:29) *
Well, that's interesting.

I don't need a wiring diagram as such- stringing together a load of LEDs shouldn't be a problem- it's just how to get 'em apart...

Are those pictures from the Spanish guys' thread, yeah..?

Not sure I'd go for blue-LEDs myself!

How do you mean you were looking at them as a source for the VDO gauges, Ganz...?



My next set of pics will explain the vdo link to the stalks. I needed to look for a key operated power supply for my vdo gauge illumination bulbs. I don't want the gauges to be illuminated all the time only when I turn the side lights on. The supply to the side lights is ideal and is connected to the stalk. I didn't have to use the stalk in the end only the feed into the ignition lock that ultimately feeds the stalks too.

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Hmm...

You've lost me there!

I drive around with my sidelights on all the time anyway- so it wouldn't bother me if the VDO's were lit- unless they are dazzling bright?

Why do you want a key to bring them in..?

Perhaps your next post or pictures will explain..?
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QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 12th April 2017 16:40) *
Have you got more than one car, shpuncik...?


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ph3 145 1.9JTD Edizione Sportiva - daily
ph1 145 1.6 Boxer - fully drivable, needs to be prepared for MOT, planing to use it more as weekend car
ph3 145 1.9JTD - bought from scrapyard for spares for my Edizione Sportiva

and few more NAR - Volvo 480ES, SAAB 900 Turbo OG, BMW E30 320i Cabrio, Volvo Amazon '67
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Haha-

Triple-Alfa trouble!

Although, I must admit; they are not THAT MUCH trouble, are they?!

Well done- that's a good brace anyway.

Hey Ganz-

Having reread your post, you need to tap into the sidelights feed to illuminate the VDO gauges-
Perhaps off the ash tray, or faglighter feeds...
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post 15th April 2017 21:14
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QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 14th April 2017 09:35) *
Haha-

Triple-Alfa trouble!

Although, I must admit; they are not THAT MUCH trouble, are they?!

Well done- that's a good brace anyway.

Hey Ganz-

Having reread your post, you need to tap into the sidelights feed to illuminate the VDO gauges-
Perhaps off the ash tray, or faglighter feeds...


Key feed. The reason for this is that some circuits are on all the time which would drain The battery. The fag lighter is ok but then the lights are on all the time when you start the engine. I wanted the illumination lights to be on only when I switch my lights on. I know it's crazy and call me strange but I have this philosophy of if it's easy not to do something then do it lol! Anyway, the other feed is the power supply to the gauges. As both were accessible from the ignition block I thought why not? the power feed to the gauges would be on when the engine starts and the illumination of the gauges would be on when I turn the lights on ( side lights and headlights( identified these feeds from the wirining diagram. Yes I know the ciggy lighter can provide all this but I'm already I got stuff off the cig lighter: sat nav, phone charger, speed camera detector.




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yeah- you are right- the fag lighter can provide all that, plus it is ignition switched and doesn't illuminate until the sidelights are on. It shouldn't illuminate until then, anyway!

The thing is, the SERVICES fuse (fag lighter) is the natural feed for ancillary stuff like that. You should maybe try for some current measurement, and see just how much all your other stuff draws...
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QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 17th April 2017 15:28) *
yeah- you are right- the fag lighter can provide all that, plus it is ignition switched and doesn't illuminate until the sidelights are on. It shouldn't illuminate until then, anyway!

The thing is, the SERVICES fuse (fag lighter) is the natural feed for ancillary stuff like that. You should maybe try for some current measurement, and see just how much all your other stuff draws...


It's been a while since I had my 145 on the road but on my 147 the fag lighter feed is always on even when you switch off the side/headlights. That's the reason I went to the ignition block.

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okay-

well, I checked the other night, and mine ONLY comes on with the sidelights...

I'm on a W-plate...
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