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Alfa Romeo 145 - 146 Forum _ The Rest Of The Car _ Anyone know what this is for?

Posted by: sanitary 29th April 2019 11:59

I'm in the process of removing the alternator to fix the stuck pig sounding bearings

and to get to it I needed to remove the gearbox mounting which this was also bolted to
with nothing fixed to it I'm sure it is yet another superfluous part which won't be going back on again (more weight loss biggrin.gif )




so, anyone have a clue what it's for?




san

Posted by: dante giacosa 29th April 2019 12:15

hmm..

It's hard to guess without a 'context' to the mounting, San


was it oriented vertically? Which bit was unused and waving about..?

I must say; the larger end looks like the under-tray mounting tabs for the rear-most side-positions, which go onto those flat box-sections under the front floor wells...

Posted by: sanitary 29th April 2019 12:23

QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 29th April 2019 13:15) *
hmm..

It's hard to guess without a 'context' to the mounting, San
was it oriented vertically? Which bit was unused and waving about..?

I must say; the larger end looks like the under-tray mounting tabs for the rear-most side-positions, which go onto those flat box-sections under the front floor wells...



mounted as you see it as part of the gearbox mounting, nothing was waving about and nothing was connected to it
it has been suggested it was part of the exhaust mounting (though I don't think so... )




san

Posted by: sanitary 29th April 2019 12:37

HA!!!


just had a look on ePer and it is a spurious exhaust bracket of some sort

Part No : 60620653 - BRACKET

though I can't see how it works

also in 146/155/156/GTV/Spider/GT and various Fiat/Lancias




No. 13 in above pic


san

Posted by: dante giacosa 30th April 2019 08:13

so-

it was mounted vertically and pointing backwards

I would say that was a turbocharger bracket.

oh- hangon? Is that on the alternator-side though?

Posted by: sanitary 30th April 2019 09:15

QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 30th April 2019 09:13) *
so-

it was mounted vertically and pointing backwards

I would say that was a turbocharger bracket.

oh- hangon? Is that on the alternator-side though?


more on the starter motor side

so, I'm missing a turbocharger unsure.gif


san

Posted by: dante giacosa 30th April 2019 11:46

and the diesel engine to go with it...!

Posted by: sanitary 30th April 2019 17:08

QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 30th April 2019 12:46) *
and the diesel engine to go with it...!


laugh.gif laugh.gif


san

Posted by: Desperado 1st May 2019 21:37

QUOTE(sanitary @ 29th April 2019 13:23) *
mounted as you see it as part of the gearbox mounting, nothing was waving about and nothing was connected to it
it has been suggested it was part of the exhaust mounting (though I don't think so... )
san

It is a support bracket for the downpipe - it bolts to item 14 2 part clamp in the diagram. It doesn't look like it does but it does. I have been told its not needed but it is. There is an a/v mount that is missing from yours, Its a bit of jigsaw puzzle to fit it and I made a new Item 14 for mine out of a standard exhaust bracket and a piece of ally angle.


I say its needed as on my car the next exhaust support is before the 1st silencer box and that breaks a lot !


Posted by: shpuncik 2nd May 2019 06:45

I agree with Desperado that this bracket serves purpose. On my other car, not Alfa, there is similar mounting bracket. It was missing and exhaust header cracked after a while. My guess was do to lack of support for exhaust piping and extra vibrations

Posted by: Pantera 3rd May 2019 00:25

Just like Desperado is saying. This bracket supports the exhaust before the catalytic converter/first silencer and without it the axhaust will move more that it should and break apart the joint before the lambda is plugged in.
In the main hole goes a vulcanic rubber bushing that supports the handler of the exhaust, and if it's in a bad condition it should be replaced to avoid strange noises in the road.
I've have replaced it last week. It costs $25 on my country.

Posted by: JeremyG 3rd May 2019 07:22

Which begs the question - do you even have the bracket at 14/15, San?

BTW, probably not helpful now - but it is also possible to take the alternator out from above by removing the air box.

Posted by: sanitary 3rd May 2019 18:11

QUOTE(JeremyG @ 3rd May 2019 08:22) *
Which begs the question - do you even have the bracket at 14/15, San?

BTW, probably not helpful now - but it is also possible to take the alternator out from above by removing the air box.



only the bit you see on the pic


as for the alternator it has been touch and got as whether I have a 145 or not
and as of the moment it is not coming out of the top or the bottom rant.gif




san

Posted by: Desperado 4th May 2019 18:29

QUOTE(sanitary @ 3rd May 2019 19:11) *
only the bit you see on the pic
as for the alternator it has been touch and got as whether I have a 145 or not
and as of the moment it is not coming out of the top or the bottom rant.gif
san


The alternator is a right pain to do. I removed the inlet plenum to do mine and remove it through the top. That's not too difficult but there is a support bracket between the plenum and the engine block with some cable clips attached. This bracket was nearly a show stopper.


I had to give the job to the garage the next time, couldn't face it again!! I think the mechanics removed it through the bottom, mind you there were two of them on it and the benefit of a ramp.

Posted by: sanitary 9th June 2019 13:13

Bit of an update..... whistle.gif

well the alternator is out and in bits but isn't able to be repaired...
which is probably why I couldn't find any parts or repair kits for it
so bought a second hand one for much cheepness biggrin.gif

for those who have to do this job on a ally top phase 1 engine
make sure you have a second pair of hands to pry the engine block forward to create enough room to get the airbox and inlet manifold out...
you can't pry and pull at the same time!


once that's out of the way and the swearing has stopped rant.gif just grab the alternator and take it out

hopefully I'll be able to start putting it back together next weekend (if it doesn't rain again )



san

Oh.. and I'll put the bracket back on and connect it to the exhaust as it should be
rolleyes.gif


san

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