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donutty
post 31st March 2019 13:43
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So.. after getting everything ready for MOT which included longer than before running in... disaster! sad.gif

All symptoms point to head gasket or crack in the block. Water in the oil, stuttering, bubbling in the coolant, very smoky exhaust. Fine when cold but after 15 or so minutes, its a dog.
I guess that's why it was laid up in the first place for some unsuspecting fool to come along and buy as a project.

After spending this much time and devotion I'm not giving up so am looking for an GOOD engine to transplant.

Anybody have one that they are regularly stubbing their toes on??


And yes, this means my 145 won't be coming to Spring Alfa Day (I'm borrowing a 75 instead)... but maybe ready for Summer!
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post 31st March 2019 23:19
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Terrible luck, donutty- But total-respect for your dedication to sort it out.

There are engines on eBay all the time


'Borrow a 75'?? I wish I had your mates!
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post 1st April 2019 08:30
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That is bad luck, for sure. Any reason you're not trying to overhaul the original motor? Do you suspect other problems?
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post 1st April 2019 08:46
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That is bad luck, for sure. Any reason you're not trying to overhaul the original motor? Do you suspect other problems?


If we go to the effort of removing the head and find the gasket is OK and it's a cracked block, might as well have swapped the engine at the first instance. Of course when all is up and running I'll do a post mortem just to satisfy my curiosity!
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post 1st April 2019 12:16
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you can't knock that logic
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Might also be worth keeping in touch with Stevie in case he decides the 145 he has just bought from eBay is not worth restoring.

That car has got an engine that has done just 66,000 miles...
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can't say I've ever heard of a cracked block

but i know where there is a head



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ooh! intrigue!
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post 3rd April 2019 12:25
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The cracked block theory is my worst-case Dad thought pattern. I'm half tempted to take the head off and take the hit if it's worse than that. Otherwise the 145 is going to be laid up a good while waiting for an affordable engine.
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QUOTE(donutty @ 3rd April 2019 13:25) *
The cracked block theory is my worst-case Dad thought pattern. I'm half tempted to take the head off and take the hit if it's worse than that. Otherwise the 145 is going to be laid up a good while waiting for an affordable engine.


I notice that you've been doing stuff for the MOT

did you change the oil filter?

if the oil filter is over tightened it can damage the oil cooler on the rear of the filter housing
I would check this out first then if that is ok check the compression on the cylinders to find which one is down



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Performing a compression test is a good call.

Re. removing the head vs. replacing the entire motor... youíll have to remove both manifolds from your existing engine either way (or at least separate the downpipe from the manifold, on the exhaust side). Once youíve got that far the additional work to remove the head is surely not that great?
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QUOTE(sanitary @ 3rd April 2019 19:20) *
I notice that you've been doing stuff for the MOT

did you change the oil filter?

if the oil filter is over tightened it can damage the oil cooler on the rear of the filter housing
I would check this out first then if that is ok check the compression on the cylinders to find which one is down
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The oil filter is one thing that hasn't been changed yet... was waiting till the last minute to do a complete oil change and new filter.

I have read about the oil/water contamination being caused by the oil cooler, but my symptoms are looking like completely misfiring on one cylinder, very rough. I'll see about doing a compression test.

Cheers.
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post 8th April 2019 15:02
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Auto-psy report attributes the cause of chugginess to a blown head gasket. New gaskets (inc all sealing components for the upper engine) have been ordered and the head has been sent off for checking and skimming.

Hope to be back on the road soon! See you at Newby Hall!
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post 8th April 2019 23:15
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Good news - glad itís nothing more serious...
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biggrin.gif biggrin.gif Good stuff

a lot less work than replacing the engine (or a lot less cash)




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post 10th April 2019 09:15
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Work is progressing nicely...


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Guess which cylinder was blowing!


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Here's the problem!


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Back from skimming. Note the pitting. Hopefully some JB Weld will fill those.


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Camshafts, journals, doo-dahs and widgets.


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Open heart surgery!!
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post 14th April 2019 21:48
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QUOTE(donutty @ 10th April 2019 10:15) *
Work is progressing nicely...
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Guess which cylinder was blowing!
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Here's the problem!
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Back from skimming. Note the pitting. Hopefully some JB Weld will fill those.
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Camshafts, journals, doo-dahs and widgets.
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Open heart surgery!!


Good work. Don't forget to clean out those cam buckets. Whilst you have the cam sensor off I would replace that. My ignition light has been on for years. When I finally purchased the full version of the FiatMultiscan software it pointed to the cam sensor as being the cause of the light. It's resistance was outside the tolerance. Although it has not affected the engine in anyway I just hate that light being on.

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