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post 8th April 2019 23:11
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I doubt you’ll get the sensor out without destroying it.

(I had the same issue with my Spider last year.)

What condition is the pinch bolt head? You should be able to get a ring spanner on the nut end then a socket on the bolt head, right?

If the bolt head is rounded (as mine was), you could try drilling into the nut to split it. This is what I did - it takes a VERY long time though and needs a very hard drill bit.

Alternatively you could remove the entire strut and hub along with the lower arm, driveshaft and ABS sensor wiring then sort the pinch bolts out on the bench. Bit radical, but it would get you access to those turrets reasonably quickly...
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post 9th April 2019 06:55
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QUOTE(lancer778544 @ 8th April 2019 22:53) *
Hi Stevie,

I'm currently battling the same issue on my 145 boxer. It was originally an allen bolt but like all rusty allen bolts, its already rounded at the mere thought of you wanting to undo it. I tried welding another bolt to the top of it but it just sheared further down. In my case, the bolt was hardened so I've ordered a cobalt drill bit to try and get it to shift, otherwise I'll have to hold the new sensor in with a cable tie or something. On my car. the hole for the thread goes all the way through the knuckle with enough room at the end (I think) to put a nut if you did have to drill through the bolt and couldn't tap a new thread for whatever reason but I don't know if the knuckles on the boxer and twin sparks are different. My ABS sensor was badly cracked and stuck in place so I had to destroy it to get it out so you may not want to disturb it if you can help it.


Welcome along, Lancer!

Is your boxer the one that sold on eBay a few weeks ago?
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post 9th April 2019 08:40
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QUOTE(JeremyG @ 9th April 2019 07:55) *
Welcome along, Lancer!

Is your boxer the one that sold on eBay a few weeks ago?


Thanks for the welcome and neigh. Mine was rescued from Bristol about a year ago from one of my brother's colleagues, last on the road (well, last taxed anyway) in 2010. I tried to join the forum a little while ago but couldn't get past the depreciated CAPTCHA. I'll throw my own "You & Your Car" thread up soon smile.gif
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post 9th April 2019 20:38
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Thanks guys.

In the end I had to sacrifice the sensor. I sawed the side off, so I could get a socket on the lower pinch nut. My spanner couldnt budge it so needed my big ratchet.

Indeed the bolt heads were poor, but I hammered on a 15mm spiral cut bolt extractor socket attached to my smaller wrench, arm of which then jams against the brake disc, and it didn't move whilst my massive wrench was on the nut. I also blasted into smoke the plastic inside the pinch nuts with my induction heater.

Long story short both studs are out!

Tomorrow will be the great reveal as to how bad the suspension dome is on the nearside. The guy I bought it from said he had someone under seal it in the past , and he reckons he under sealed some damp dirt or something in the domes which caused the rust.

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post 10th April 2019 17:03
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Great work! Fingers crossed that the turret is vaguely repairable. If not, you could consider Dante's route of getting an entire turret section cut out from a breaker and welding that in...

(And needless to say, when you re-fit the lower bolt, orient it with the head facing the ABS sensor...).

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Cheers

So , I'm no expert , but I think the dome is repairable , its localised to that area , you can push a flap of metal open as shown in one of the pics , but I'd say 90% of the total dome is is strong. I'm gonna grind it all clean to make 100% sure , then engage my nephew who's a professional welder (but industrial not automotive) to sort that missing bit out/and or the godfather of bolsover , my Italian mate/mechanic to advise.

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QUOTE(lancer778544 @ 8th April 2019 22:53) *
Hi Stevie,

I'm currently battling the same issue on my 145 boxer. It was originally an allen bolt but like all rusty allen bolts, its already rounded at the mere thought of you wanting to undo it. I tried welding another bolt to the top of it but it just sheared further down. In my case, the bolt was hardened so I've ordered a cobalt drill bit to try and get it to shift, otherwise I'll have to hold the new sensor in with a cable tie or something. On my car. the hole for the thread goes all the way through the knuckle with enough room at the end (I think) to put a nut if you did have to drill through the bolt and couldn't tap a new thread for whatever reason but I don't know if the knuckles on the boxer and twin sparks are different. My ABS sensor was badly cracked and stuck in place so I had to destroy it to get it out so you may not want to disturb it if you can help it.


This is quite common in Coupé land.

The ABS sensors are effectively not removeable. Or 'not salvageable' to be more accurate.

Classically they are drilled out, and replaced entirely.

Crikey- some effort Stevie!!? Good effort...


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QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 10th April 2019 21:03) *
This is quite common in Coupé land.

The ABS sensors are effectively not removeable. Or 'not salvageable' to be more accurate.

Classically they are drilled out, and replaced entirely.


It definitely feels that way, especially with the amount of used knuckles I've seen that have the ABS sensor still attached.
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The car came with about 30 paint splatters on its bonnent, dark brown and black. Dark brown stuff came off with thinners and a bit of rubbing and scraping with finger nail, but the black stuff wouldn't budge , I had to get a razor on it and ping it off. Also had a bit of grey sealant on the bonnet. I assume former owner did some external house painting in its vicinity.

So I've washed it after that, clayed the bonnet, polished and waxed the bonnet, looks a lot better.

So I've decided to press ahead with full resto, ordered £350 worth of bits from autodoc, mainly suspension and brakes and a few other bits like new abs sensors and new boot struts.

So Jeremy will need to organise getting my hands on those springs.

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Just sorting some little bits before the main action starts.

Offside rear lamp housing was bodged into place with some double sided sticky pads. On taking off , looks like PO had tried to glue the bolts back on but it had failed so went for the pads option.

So I'm trying again the glue strategy but I drilled into the fitting a bit to create a better bed for the glue/nut, and used some activator to get it to go off well and proper.

Couldnt find one new for these 36400748, and there was one used in Portugal for silly money (£80).

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QUOTE(STEVIE BOY @ 12th April 2019 16:59) *
So Jeremy will need to organise getting my hands on those springs.


Sure - I have a few days off before Easter so I'm around most of the coming week & weekend...
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post 14th April 2019 21:59
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QUOTE(STEVIE BOY @ 8th April 2019 21:14) *
How do I remove the abs sensor, is that supposed to be an Allen nut? Need to get a clear approach to bottom pinch nut.


With great difficulty laugh.gif My Allen bolt snapped off. I drilled through the remaining bit and then proceeded to lever the abs sensor off with a hefty screwdriver. It was seized solid! Even with no Allen bolt holding it on it would not budge. I ended up cracking the iron plate it was attached to!! In the end I ended up drilling into the abs sensor and scraping all the bits out. Nightmare it was rant.gif

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post 17th April 2019 20:21
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QUOTE(Ganz @ 14th April 2019 22:59) *
With great difficulty laugh.gif My Allen bolt snapped off. I drilled through the remaining bit and then proceeded to lever the abs sensor off with a hefty screwdriver. It was seized solid! Even with no Allen bolt holding it on it would not budge. I ended up cracking the iron plate it was attached to!! In the end I ended up drilling into the abs sensor and scraping all the bits out. Nightmare it was rant.gif


I will try my induction heater on it!!


QUOTE(JeremyG @ 13th April 2019 12:02) *
Sure - I have a few days off before Easter so I'm around most of the coming week & weekend...



Hiya Jeremy, I'm thinking a courier , let me know your post code and I will be able to get a quote, if that's ok with you?

Then I will get some money over to you on PayPal or by bank tfr whatever you prefer.
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QUOTE(STEVIE BOY @ 17th April 2019 21:21) *
Hiya Jeremy, I'm thinking a courier , let me know your post code and I will be able to get a quote, if that's ok with you?

Then I will get some money over to you on PayPal or by bank tfr whatever you prefer.


Hi Stevie - just sent you a PM...
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I thought belt and braces, I.e. brace the struts after I've welded them.
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QUOTE(STEVIE BOY @ 20th April 2019 00:48) *
I thought belt and braces, I.e. brace the struts after I've welded them.


Fair enough! And the Eibach lowering springs are on their way to you...
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Fair enough! And the Eibach lowering springs are on their way to you...



Thanks Jeremy!

So I've had bumper off, ready to get better access, replace rad and cure any rust.

Seems sound enough in most places except offside in front of arch, seems just to be a securing point for bumper, plastic inner arch, and horn, so I'm not too fussed about its dire condition, just rescue what's left and weld a plate to get the horn mount back where it should be.

Does anyone know what that plate with three wires on dangling down was for? Whatever it was attached too was rusted to nothing.



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Wow, you’re getting through that fast!

Are you doing your own welding, btw?

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QUOTE(JeremyG @ 20th April 2019 13:23) *
Wow, you’re getting through that fast!

Are you doing your own welding, btw?



Probably not on the struts, my nephew is an industrial welder, or I will ask Nino.

I might give it a go on the small stuff like the fitting for the horn. I bought a cheap new mig welder, gasless, been watching a few videos, so complete amateur. I think the sils/floor will need some attention , get a garage to do that.

Do you know what this wire panel is?
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QUOTE(STEVIE BOY @ 20th April 2019 22:36) *
Probably not on the struts, my nephew is an industrial welder, or I will ask Nino.

I might give it a go on the small stuff like the fitting for the horn. I bought a cheap new mig welder, gasless, been watching a few videos, so complete amateur. I think the sils/floor will need some attention , get a garage to do that.

Do you know what this wire panel is?


I’m interested in learning to weld, too... I’ve also beentempted to buy a welder and give it a go.

No idea what that electrical connection is. What colour are the three wires? And are all three interconnected on that little panel?

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