Dell's 145 16vt, In the UK Options

[dellsbells]

heres a few piccs of what ive been upto this week,,
first i thought i would show you this porky me mate hadd to do a clucth,full engine out ,
went like the clappers for an old car,,


and here is me fiat coupe,,












as you can see am not hanging about,butt there is two of us ,
i strip down the fiat got the looms out and engine,the turbo has a little wobble on the shaft,butt i no a place in notts that does them,
am now takeing the alfa apart,which looks 10 times easer then the fiat,
keep you all posted,n1 dell

[Jim145]

Nice one Dells, I'm looking forward to watching this progress.
I like those old Porkers

[langers]

Making some great progress there then Dells!!!, looks like this is going to be a short project!!

[dellsbells]

short and sweet,
at least i should no were everything goes if i do it quick,
thats the idear,,
engines out alfa so just got to wire up before refitting fiat lump,
theres a bitt of work needed on fiat lump before fitting as well,,
all being well no more then a week to go,,,,
he says,,lol

[langers]

is this engine even going to touch the floor Dells!!?? lol

What engine work you doing? a slightly larger turbo, injectors and remap etc????

[dellsbells]

engine work is new gaskitts all cam belt stuff,water pump thermastat and a few little sensers,leads plugs,turbo is ok,,bigger intercooler,
what i need to do is gett it in and working before i start changing stuff,,got to gett ecu chip,t for it to work on my keys
ive got me first issue as well,,
this engine has aircon and i dont need it,,
the aircon runs the power steering pump, so is there a brackitt or a pulley system to lose the aircon ,
any info would be nice,,
cheers dell,,

[AJ]

Yeah you can drop the aircon pump, I did this. If you take it and the power steering pump off you will see that you can move the power steering pump up slightly iirc and the belt will run fine. I think you need to get a different belt though, you need one for non air con.

You need to reverse the pulley on the power steering pump and it will then line up to run off the belt straight from the crank.

I think the PS pump moves down and I think shares the bottom original mount of the PS pump and the top mount of the aircon pump:

[airmike]

1. old location of the power steering pump
2. old holes to tighten the belt
3. New location for the servo
4. new holes to tighten the belt
5. location of the A/C compressor

You will need a belt for the model without the A/C witch is shorter You don't need to drill any holes...everything is just a matter of bolting it on.

This is how the guys here in slovenia do it on their 155 Q4's but the engine is the same so it should work

[dellsbells]

thanks for that,,did manage to gett it to look about right today,just not bolted it in,
like you say different belt and am sorted,,
cheers for the picture ,
n1 dell

[airmike]

Glad to bo of help

[laaf]

Looks like a good project.
Is that Coupe Ink Black?
Does it have a good front or rear bumper and would you want to sell them if you have them?
Best of luck with the conversion.

[dellsbells]

yes it is black ive got the rear bumper,its in gd condition,front was nackerd ,
ive got a full leather trim if your intrested ,lights and a very big bonnet,
its got brand new gas stuts on front,,that fiit to bonnet,
all parts need to go asap,,,
n1 dell,,
right ive got a wire issue,on the back of the bulk head theres a red and yellow 6 pin plug,
but only useing 3 pins,,what is this used for,,



then ive got another wire prob on the fiat loom were it links into each other i can not seem to be able to find a decent wireing digram,
so would any one no were to send me for one,these are the plugs that am a bit unsure about




n1 dell

[GialloEvo94]

dells,

Wiring diagrams for the 16vt can be found at the following links:-

• Wiring Diagrams 16 valve Part One
• Wiring Diagrams 16 valve Part Two

[AJ]

You have to unwrap all the loom, there are a few wires that can be stripped out or cut where it goes into the car.

Look at the pinout diagram, look at the connector, then trace each wire for each pin to the plug. Do this for all plugs, then anything that isn't needed can be removed. There are a few other bits like relays, ignition amps, power distribution box etc but these are fairly easy to seperate. I hope you labelled each connector before you took it off the sensor, it makes life much easier!

[dellsbells]

i would if i could,,and yes i did labelled them,so no one noes what that 6 pin plug does on the alfa ??
that linky for the wireing diagram only half the pages load up so am i missing something??
i have downloaded loads of wiring diagrams butt they dont seem to be telling me what i need to no,
i understand that ive got to strip the loom out and split it up, ive manage to sort the speedo and starter of my alfa loom,
like i said ive got about 10 wires am unsure about,just need a colour code for the wires,
ive still not hadd a sparky look at it ,trying to sort it myself at mo,,
i think am going to start getting the engine in this week,ive got most of me parts now,
then worrie about wires,,
i no someone eles in leicester who done the same conversion on a fiat bravo,and he said just bang the engine in then do the wiring,
sure i will be fine, am not flapping yett,,lol

[GialloEvo94]

I'm confused...is that 6-pin plug on the Alfa bulkhead or on the Coupe bulkhead (i.e. in the Alfa or Coupe loom)?

With the pictures that don't load up, it seems to be a problem with their web server so just right click any unloaded pictures one by one and select "Show Picture" (assuming you're using Internet Explorer). They will then load.

[dellsbells]

sorry that 6 pin plug is on the alfa loom,, its got just 3 wires going into it though,,am sure its rev counter,,
i try again with the fiat wire diagrams,,n1 dell

This post has been edited by dellsbells: 19th May 2009 08:24

[DRobbo]

This looks like an awesome project... Good luck and I look forward to seeing it driving round Loughborough!

[dellsbells]

cool drobbo,,
ive nott stop just waiting on bitts,
,
thats about half of the bitts so far,,,
am going to take me time,,no rush

[dellsbells]

well today i mange to get all the legs sorted ,
am getting a number for a guy in scotland who does the ecu blanking,so it will accept my key, also get a stage 3 map
and ive orded me gauges for turbo and oil prusure from states,
it turned out not to bad on selling the parts,i mange to gett 400£ back on the fiat,
so it only stands me at 320,,
plus parts,,which is about 360,,at mo
so if i can do it for a gee then am a happy man,,,,

n1 dell