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Changing variators on a Ferrari 4.2 v8

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STEVIE BOY

2nd December 2018 09:59

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Just round the Italian Godfather of Bolsover house, he's spent two days so far to get to this stage on his maserati quattroporte.

Costs £8k to get done at the garage!!

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Ganz View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	2nd December 2018 21:57 Post #2 \| Print
1.6 8v Group: Regular Posts: 984 Joined: 2nd November 2012 Local Time: 21st February 2019 16:48 From: East Mids Member No.: 10,640 Driving: 145 Cloverleaf 2.0L ts From: uk	Engineering art from the Italians💪 -------------------- G A N Z 145 Instagram ganz145_alfa

dante giacosa View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	2nd December 2018 23:02 Post #3 \| Print
1.6 8v Group: Regular Posts: 909 Joined: 28th March 2017 Local Time: 21st February 2019 16:48 Member No.: 13,068 Driving: 146 CF2 1.8 T-spark From: Edinburgh	I didn't realise the QP V was chains...! I think I'd prefer the job on the QP IV (which was belts) a bit more! (Although; come to think of it; there was no variator on the IV.) The forums are good- he should be well informed Is he doing the valve clearances also- I see the covers are off; or is that just for the lock-tool Stevie? It's always said, that the post '99 cars: 3200 GT onwards (the V8s) are 'Ferrari money' for servicing. He could have gone to Emblem though- it wouldn't have been that much with those guys. This post has been edited by dante giacosa: 3rd December 2018 13:49

STEVIE BOY View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	3rd December 2018 18:34 Post #4 \| Print
1.3 8v Group: Member Posts: 72 Joined: 22nd September 2018 Local Time: 21st February 2019 16:48 Member No.: 13,493 Driving: Alfa 146 ti From: NW Leicestershire	"2 reasons really, without removing cam covers one wouldn't have access to the to the timing chain upper guide which has to be removed to replace the chain and also for better access for removing the variator, the other reason is that all 4 cams need to be locked in position while removing the timing chains, I've ordered the 2 timing chains today and replacing them as a matter of corse like you would replace a cam belt. "

dante giacosa View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	3rd December 2018 20:44 Post #5 \| Print
1.6 8v Group: Regular Posts: 909 Joined: 28th March 2017 Local Time: 21st February 2019 16:48 Member No.: 13,068 Driving: 146 CF2 1.8 T-spark From: Edinburgh	he's not 'mucking about', your Godfather, is he...! I take my hat off to him...

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3rd December 2018 23:09

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nice! here is mine Italian corner

- currently working on 360 Spider

dante giacosa View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	4th December 2018 03:36 Post #7 \| Print
1.6 8v Group: Regular Posts: 909 Joined: 28th March 2017 Local Time: 21st February 2019 16:48 Member No.: 13,068 Driving: 146 CF2 1.8 T-spark From: Edinburgh	wow Valdas- that's NOT a BMW, is it?! When did you pick that up??! They've become quite good value now, 360s I think, relative to the 355 Is that a GT beyond, and a Giulia beyond that?? (What else are YOU driving, Stevie??) This post has been edited by dante giacosa: 4th December 2018 03:37

STEVIE BOY View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	4th December 2018 13:42 Post #8 \| Print
1.3 8v Group: Member Posts: 72 Joined: 22nd September 2018 Local Time: 21st February 2019 16:48 Member No.: 13,493 Driving: Alfa 146 ti From: NW Leicestershire	I thought it was a brera in the foreground? I have a GTV 2.0 TS, as well as my 146, and I'm working albeit slowly on a Porsche 924. How about you Dante, do you herald from Italy? The godfather came from Bovino.

dante giacosa View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	4th December 2018 15:29 Post #9 \| Print
1.6 8v Group: Regular Posts: 909 Joined: 28th March 2017 Local Time: 21st February 2019 16:48 Member No.: 13,068 Driving: 146 CF2 1.8 T-spark From: Edinburgh	No, no- I'm 'technically' Scottish, but from my parent's roots; I sound English. So when I'm in Scotland; people think I'm English, and when I'm down South; I am identified as Scottish. I think you are right! It's obviously a Brera! Stevie- does your 146 have an under tray..??

shpuncik View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	4th December 2018 21:11 Post #10 \| Print
1.4 16v Group: Regular Posts: 123 Joined: 16th January 2017 Local Time: 21st February 2019 18:48 Member No.: 12,980 Driving: 145 1.6 Boxer; 145 1.9JTD Edizione Sportiva From: Lithuania	when Italians are in da house BMW's wait outside 360 isn't mine, just sorting some electrical gremlins in engine bay. and STEVIE is right - that's my brothers Brera - to be exactly 3.2JTS Q4 and in the door way Giulia Q4 I'm still more than happy with my both 145s

dante giacosa View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	4th December 2018 21:56 Post #11 \| Print
1.6 8v Group: Regular Posts: 909 Joined: 28th March 2017 Local Time: 21st February 2019 16:48 Member No.: 13,068 Driving: 146 CF2 1.8 T-spark From: Edinburgh	Giulia Q4

JeremyG View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	5th December 2018 11:12 Post #12 \| Print
1.4 16v Group: Regular Posts: 367 Joined: 19th August 2016 Local Time: 21st February 2019 17:48 Member No.: 12,797 Driving: 166 3.0 Sportronic, 145 QV From: Oxford	QUOTE(shpuncik @ 4th December 2018 21:11) when Italians are in da house BMW's wait outside Quite right! Bizarrely, my father-in-law (who is Italian) drives BMWs. He's always pleased to see whatever Alfas I have at home when he visits, though...

STEVIE BOY View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	5th December 2018 14:24 Post #13 \| Print
1.3 8v Group: Member Posts: 72 Joined: 22nd September 2018 Local Time: 21st February 2019 16:48 Member No.: 13,493 Driving: Alfa 146 ti From: NW Leicestershire	QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 4th December 2018 15:29) No, no- I'm 'technically' Scottish, but from my parent's roots; I sound English. So when I'm in Scotland; people think I'm English, and when I'm down South; I am identified as Scottish. I think you are right! It's obviously a Brera! Stevie- does your 146 have an under tray..?? No I'm commando at the moment. GAZZELLA racing has just rang me, raggazon is making my 146 a rear box as we speak, centre pipe is in stock. should get next week. Can't wait

dante giacosa View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	6th December 2018 09:25 Post #14 \| Print
1.6 8v Group: Regular Posts: 909 Joined: 28th March 2017 Local Time: 21st February 2019 16:48 Member No.: 13,068 Driving: 146 CF2 1.8 T-spark From: Edinburgh	ace. is it going to work out cheaper than Ganz's backbox offer..? we should all post up start-up videos for noise analysis on youTube, like Zhagar..! This post has been edited by dante giacosa: 6th December 2018 09:26

STEVIE BOY View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	7th December 2018 10:59 Post #15 \| Print
1.3 8v Group: Member Posts: 72 Joined: 22nd September 2018 Local Time: 21st February 2019 16:48 Member No.: 13,493 Driving: Alfa 146 ti From: NW Leicestershire	QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 6th December 2018 09:25) ace. is it going to work out cheaper than Ganz's backbox offer..? we should all post up start-up videos for noise analysis on youTube, like Zhagar..! What back box offer?!, it's costing me £550 odd for centre and rear....

dante giacosa View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	7th December 2018 11:04 Post #16 \| Print
1.6 8v Group: Regular Posts: 909 Joined: 28th March 2017 Local Time: 21st February 2019 16:48 Member No.: 13,068 Driving: 146 CF2 1.8 T-spark From: Edinburgh	good crikey- are you joking- can't you see his thread?? he wants £250 for a genuine Supersprint http://forum.alfa145.com/index.php?showtopic=25051 This post has been edited by dante giacosa: 7th December 2018 11:05

JeremyG View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	7th December 2018 12:40 Post #17 \| Print
1.4 16v Group: Regular Posts: 367 Joined: 19th August 2016 Local Time: 21st February 2019 17:48 Member No.: 12,797 Driving: 166 3.0 Sportronic, 145 QV From: Oxford	And I have heard some bad stories about Gazella Racing over-promising and under-delivering on Ragazzon kit...

STEVIE BOY

7th December 2018 12:49

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QUOTE(JeremyG @ 7th December 2018 12:40)

And I have heard some bad stories about Gazella Racing over-promising and under-delivering on Ragazzon kit...

Oh yee all of little faith this Xmas

. The gazella dude rang me, sounded a nice chap. Let's wait and see!

Its not £550 for rear box but for this bit , plus rear box (have i still been mugged?):

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dante giacosa View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	7th December 2018 14:07 Post #19 \| Print
1.6 8v Group: Regular Posts: 909 Joined: 28th March 2017 Local Time: 21st February 2019 16:48 Member No.: 13,068 Driving: 146 CF2 1.8 T-spark From: Edinburgh	no- I'm sure you haven't; I didn't appreciate you were going for the whole system..

JeremyG View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	7th December 2018 15:51 Post #20 \| Print
1.4 16v Group: Regular Posts: 367 Joined: 19th August 2016 Local Time: 21st February 2019 17:48 Member No.: 12,797 Driving: 166 3.0 Sportronic, 145 QV From: Oxford	QUOTE(STEVIE BOY @ 7th December 2018 12:49) Oh yee all of little faith this Xmas . The gazella dude rang me, sounded a nice chap. Let's wait and see! Its not £550 for rear box but for this bit , plus rear box (have i still been mugged?): Fingers crossed it'll be on the car before Xmas - and I bet it'll sound great. (I've got a Ragazzon cat back system on my 166 and it sounds epic!)

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