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JeremyG
post 19th July 2019 17:29
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Iím sorely tempted to buy back my 145... the guy I sold it to has been trying to sell it on again...

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=htt...%2F113816977507

Iíll definitely be having a cheeky bid...
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post 20th July 2019 08:53
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fascinating, and a bit disappointing I suppose (that the new owner is moving on so soon, given the work put into it)

Has the GT turned out to be the ownership experience you were hoping for?

Would you keep both (/'all' of them...?)


You know it makes sense biggrin.gif


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post 20th July 2019 09:33
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Will keep an eye on that £640.00 with 12 hours to go....
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post 20th July 2019 12:49
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QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 20th July 2019 09:53) *
fascinating, and a bit disappointing I suppose (that the new owner is moving on so soon, given the work put into it)

Has the GT turned out to be the ownership experience you were hoping for?

Would you keep both (/'all' of them...?)
You know it makes sense biggrin.gif


The GT has been fine - itís a beautiful car inside and out, it handles nicely, but the engine is oddly soul-less (the GT community seems to favour the diesel motor if itís performance youíre after. Personally, Iíd go for the Busso).

If I get the 145 back I have a couple of upgrades in mind and would probably move the GT on.



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post 21st July 2019 15:00
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Any luck, Jeremy? Watched the end of the auction - whoever got it had a bargain _ £771!
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post 21st July 2019 16:11
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Any luck, Jeremy? Watched the end of the auction - whoever got it had a bargain _ £771!


Well - yes and no... that was my bid, so a good price, for sure.

The bad news... a few minutes after the auction finished, the seller cancelled the sale!

Iíve texted him a couple of times today but so far radio silence. Not sure how this is going to end... but needless to say, Iím not impressed...
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Ah, that's poor form. Hope you manage to sort it out.
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post 23rd July 2019 08:41
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'cancelled the sale'???

Can you even do that?? I love eBay.

How ridiculous
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post 23rd July 2019 09:13
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he was probably expecting a lot more money for it as there have been a few £1500+ 145's on ebay just lately

report him to eBay as he should have had a limit on it rant.gif





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post 23rd July 2019 15:57
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the irony is- with the work done on that car: it really is worth a fortune


I've been thinking about that comment about the Diesel engines being favoured for the GT.
Isn't that interesting? So, are 'we' all living in the past; or do GT owners have different expectations..? More modern expectations, do you think?

Discuss...
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post 23rd July 2019 16:32
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QUOTE(sanitary @ 23rd July 2019 10:13) *
he was probably expecting a lot more money for it as there have been a few £1500+ 145's on ebay just lately

report him to eBay as he should have had a limit on it rant.gif
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Yes, I'm sure he was expecting more... £771 is less than he paid me for it, but he'd had it advertised on various Facebook forums starting at over 2k and gradually reducing in price down to £1600-ish.

But that's the risk when you sell on eBay, isn't it?

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I will report him to eBay - not that they will be able to force him to hand it over...



QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 23rd July 2019 16:57) *
the irony is- with the work done on that car: it really is worth a fortune
I've been thinking about that comment about the Diesel engines being favoured for the GT.
Isn't that interesting? So, are 'we' all living in the past; or do GT owners have different expectations..? More modern expectations, do you think?

Discuss...


The diesel engine is more tuneable, by all accounts - remaps, bigger turbos, etc etc.

I won't drive a diesel on principle - I can't believe they are not more polluting than petrol engines, and the VW emissions-test-evasion scandal did it for me.

(But then again, I don't clock up that many miles these days, either...)
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post 26th July 2019 16:13
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Well - as one door closes, another one opens...

Just picked this up for similar money...

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It's a non-runner, but it'll be fun trying to get it back on the road again...
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post 28th July 2019 17:14
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good crikey!

Send in the 916!!!

Is that the busso? Have you done the belts on one before..??
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post 29th July 2019 07:19
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QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 28th July 2019 18:14) *
good crikey!

Send in the 916!!!

Is that the busso? Have you done the belts on one before..??


Yes, a 3.0 Busso. I haven't done the belts on one of these before, so now is my chance to learn!

But, first of all, I need to get it running... this is what the engine bay looks like:

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I won't get my hands on it till early September, though, as we're moving house shortly.

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post 29th July 2019 10:37
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Wait! That looks like my old GTV V6....notsure thought looking at the arieal i think not.

MONEY PITS. In that state those cars are RIDICULOUSLY expensive to put right.

Would be cheaper to buy a good one. I spent 10k on mine and didn't get it working right even after f**ker autolusso charged me 2.5k bill for s**t work that they did.

Yes Ned you f**king a**hole.

Anyway....headers likely cracked, water pump bolts probably will crack on you, the water tube across the engine seized, runniners will need re-chriming, the front disks are probably seized and will need an over-haul, subframe probably rusted, rear spring pans definitely rusted and need re-welding, headlights chrome rusted, front oil cooler lines f**ked needing new lines and a new oil cooler, the airbox is already f**ked, radiator f**ked, all the aircon components perished.

The f**king list is endless....



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post 29th July 2019 10:43
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crikey Buell-

that's quite an inditement... You sound massively embittered about the experience.


However Dr G, wouldn't enter into such an adventure unless he was fairly 'informed' about the prospects of success.

And his labour-rates are much lower of course, than autolusso's...

Plus; he has a terrific skill (which I wish I had) of knowing when 'enough' is enough!


let's watch-this-space; although perhaps we are on the wrong forum for that!?

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post 29th July 2019 11:35
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The problem is I approached the problem of restoring the GTV thinking it would be as easy as a 145 but:

- There is a massive premium on parts as the GTV V6 is seen as a luxury car
- The V6 engine has all the GTA gayboys looking after parts: headers are super expensive, specially for CF2, engine parts quite rare to find, there are little finnicky differences between all CF variants thereby you can't easily swap
- The re-chroming process on the runners is expensive
- The brembo brakes POS have the problem of the pads being squashed by the fact that they run on stainless steel clips that create a chemical reaction and end up being pushed up and then the car doesn't break
- The rear spring pans always need welding

I made the mistake of not buying another donor car. With another donor I would have had an easier time, but I didn't have the space.

My car looked almost identical - so much so that I thought the picture you posted was of my engine bay.



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post 29th July 2019 14:15
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Yes - I'm going into this with my eyes open and in the expectation that it may not be salvageable. If that's the case then it will be worth something in parts - the wheels alone would pretty much cover the purchase price.

The tricky thing will be knowing when to bow out. These have been struggling to make even £3k over the last six months so at least I know where the limits are financially...

As they say:

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post 2nd August 2019 11:47
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Final word on this thread... I just went down to see the GTV today to read the codes on it and attempt to fire it up.

MES found a ton of error codes which cleared and didn't come back; and the inertial fuel cutout had tripped. Having reset the cutout we had fuel to the inlet manifold so I went for a start. Amazingly, the engine fired almost immediately!

It sounded horrible - loads of top end clatter - so I didn't let it run for more than a couple of seconds. But that's a start, eh (literally)?

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One final word... if anyone is interested in my old 145, then itís for sale on Facebook here:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1277553092399927/

It wouldnít take much to get it back to original spec... Iím pretty sure the current owner still has the original wheels.
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