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post 27th January 2020 15:09
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QUOTE(Alan B @ 22nd January 2020 16:10) *
Know of Royal, not used them though. However, it's the back that's started lifting from the metal body of the wheel. Do you know if this can be sorted?

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Sorry for the late reply. Looking at that, I'm not sure they could help but worth asking? Might be easier to find one from a breaker?
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post 27th January 2020 17:54
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So, that's the grille badge arrived...

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post 29th January 2020 12:04
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And yes, I know the badge is slightly on the squint. I feel the heat gun coming out to help me correct this.

Boot badge on order.

Now, do I replace the cloverleaf badges on the front wings, or just remove?

Also, tyre recommendations anyone?
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post 29th January 2020 13:16
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Ha! that's great; well done, Alan

what badges on the front wings?

we need more detail before qualifying that answer...
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post 29th January 2020 14:01
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QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 29th January 2020 13:16) *
Ha! that's great; well done, Alan

what badges on the front wings?

we need more detail before qualifying that answer...


Cheers Dante.

So, my 145 has (very faded) green cloverleafs on white triangle badges just above the wing indicators. I know these aren't OEM, so do I remove, or replace with new ones?

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post 29th January 2020 15:55
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QUOTE(aero_mati @ 24th January 2020 03:58) *
The boot one is made of two different parts, a base or carrying plate made from plastic (the part that moves to reveal the key hole) and a glued badge made from a thin metal sheet.

So, as far as I know, you can either replace the whole part (plastic backing + badge). Or you can buy a "glue-on badge" and just replace the thin metal badge by carefully removing the old faded metal sheet from the plastic backing and sticking the new one in.

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So, bought the glue on badge and replaced the faded boot badge too...

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post 29th January 2020 21:57
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QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 27th January 2020 13:54) *
what Krown stuff..?


It's a rust proofing treatment. Looks like they spray it everywhere.
http://krown.co.uk/uk/krown_application/Ru...eatment_process
I've waxoyled cars in the past and although it works well in preventing rust on unexposed clean steel, I've never found it particularly good at halting rust that's already there. It just makes it more difficult to treat the rust when you have to clean the stuff off with gallons of turps first. Just wandered if Krown was just as difficult to clean off when required to do the same.


QUOTE(Alan B @ 29th January 2020 15:55) *
So, bought the glue on badge and replaced the faded boot badge too...

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My rear hinged badge appears to be one single metal piece rather than a badge stuck onto plastic. I had to stick the replacement one over the top as their was nothing to peel/prise off.
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post 30th January 2020 13:18
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regarding the wing badges.

You know what, Alan?

Your car doesn't need those, to look exotic in 2020!

get 'em off...
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post 30th January 2020 17:32
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QUOTE(VROOM @ 29th January 2020 21:57) *
It's a rust proofing treatment. Looks like they spray it everywhere.
http://krown.co.uk/uk/krown_application/Ru...eatment_process
I've waxoyled cars in the past and although it works well in preventing rust on unexposed clean steel, I've never found it particularly good at halting rust that's already there. It just makes it more difficult to treat the rust when you have to clean the stuff off with gallons of turps first. Just wandered if Krown was just as difficult to clean off when required to do the same.
My rear hinged badge appears to be one single metal piece rather than a badge stuck onto plastic. I had to stick the replacement one over the top as their was nothing to peel/prise off.

I've seen both metal and plastic rear badges for sale on the internet, so maybe it's a phase 1 v phase 2 thing?

Mine was definitely plastic with an aluminium overlay. Took a bit of getting off, but went carefully. Looks much better with the new badges, even if it's got me wanting to do a lot of detail work to clean Alfie II (yes, original, I know) up.

QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 30th January 2020 13:18) *
regarding the wing badges.

You know what, Alan?

Your car doesn't need those, to look exotic in 2020!

get 'em off...


Think I agree with you. Am going to remove the cloverleaves on the skirts and clean them up and refit.

Trusty heatgun will come out to help remove these badges from the wing, then a good clean up of any residue with WD-40.
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Crikey Alan!

I'm not sure I'd be going near MY paint (what's left of it) with a paint stripper!

Solvent-cleaner would be ideal, but if you've got WD 40, spray some of that on, and then scratch a line though each sticker with your finger nail. The WD will start to permeate the adhesive layer from the middle.

Wait a few hours and do it again...
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post 31st January 2020 07:31
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QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 31st January 2020 05:41) *
Crikey Alan!

I'm not sure I'd be going near MY paint (what's left of it) with a paint stripper!

Solvent-cleaner would be ideal, but if you've got WD 40, spray some of that on, and then scratch a line though each sticker with your finger nail. The WD will start to permeate the adhesive layer from the middle.

Wait a few hours and do it again...

No no no, not a paint stripper! No, just some warm air to help soften the adhesive.

A job for this weekend, as well as hunting down the leak from the passenger side mirror, fitting new stereo and speakers (the fronts are dead, the rears are fine).
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phew- disaster averted!

how do you mean; a leak from the NS door mirror???
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QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 31st January 2020 09:33) *
phew- disaster averted!

how do you mean; a leak from the NS door mirror???

Washed the car. Noticed water in the speaker pod on that door. Can see someone has used clear silicone to try and seal around the NS mirror.
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This morning has been about fitting a voice activated bluetooth DAB radio and replacing the dead speakers in the front doors with nice new Alpine E series ones.

Sounds much better and means I have hands free calling in the car now.
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well done-

A good radio install can take days!

I went to some lengths to get an interior-light fitting, which incorporates the sunroof-switch (I don't have a sunroof), so I can repurpose a standard push-button (within the original design 'fabric' of the vehicle) to be the 'answer / hang up' key for a Bluetooth hands free thing that I got.

I've actually never gotten around to fitting it.

The headunit I've got does a rather 'period' navigation function which I quite like- saves having a mobile stuck to the windscreen, which seems to be a feature for a lot of people. (It's DVD based, so great if you don't want to access any roads made in the last ten years 😂)

I daresay, if enough money was spent, I could get a headunit that would incorporate both functionalities.

I know Blaupunkt have this new Bremen thing (I thing) which 'appears' to be this tape-based 80's headunit, but is in fact a hands-free DAB tuner, which accept media cards through the front panel.



I've never heard of water reaching the speaker in the door.
The doors are designed to let water pass through them, from the glass- if you look underneath, you'll see drain holes, and a rubber skirt to seal against external ingress upwards.
I would suggest something has gone wrong inside the door.
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Last time I fitted speakers to a car was to my 1986 fiat uno so not sure I understand the wiring these days! The 2 door speakers in my 145 are both perished, but work, yet for some reason the balance for the rear ones is the wrong way round i.e. set balance to the left and it'll come out of the right hand rear and vice versa. I had a look at the back of the original sony cassette player and it's a single plug loom thing so no idea how this has happened unless it was like that from new. If I change the fronts, I'd like them to be hidden behind the original grills (not keen on the exposed look) or a non-logo grill of some sort that looks OE. Having said that, the best sound for me is the engine and exhaust so a low priority at the moment.
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QUOTE(VROOM @ 8th February 2020 15:44) *
The 2 door speakers in my 145 are both perished, but work, yet for some reason the balance for the rear ones is the wrong way round i.e. set balance to the left and it'll come out of the right hand rear and vice versa. I had a look at the back of the original sony cassette player and it's a single plug loom thing so no idea how this has happened unless it was like that from new.


Mine was the same but with the front and rears backwards too so front left physically was rear right electrically for some reason on the factory speaker loom.
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QUOTE(Alan B @ 29th January 2020 12:04) *
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And yes, I know the badge is slightly on the squint. I feel the heat gun coming out to help me correct this.

Boot badge on order.

Now, do I replace the cloverleaf badges on the front wings, or just remove?

Also, tyre recommendations anyone?


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that's SO crazy about the door speakers being confused!

And quite fascinating to me.

I was trying to think if mine were okay; but I've replaced the speaker wiring in mine- I'm not sure I listened to it 'seriously' before that point...

(I had an '86 FIAT Uno, too Vroom!)

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QUOTE(lancer778544 @ 8th February 2020 20:07) *
Mine was the same but with the front and rears backwards too so front left physically was rear right electrically for some reason on the factory speaker loom.


Ha ha - factory mess up then. Brilliant!
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