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post 4th August 2016 08:47
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My Google Streetview has been updating recently - must have passed on a weekend when I was sorting my cars. Wish the garage was always that tidy! happy.gif



PS. Booked at Llandow on 13th August and Pembrey on 3rd September.

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From what I see, there is hardly any camber on the front wheels, that's why the tyre's outer side is taking all the weight..

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I should have a Fiat Coupe thicker rear anti-roll bar coming today. So fitting that should help with some of the corner roll - should be a quick job to do before Saturday's track day.

Regarding your camber point above, as the holes are fixed, I haven't been able to amend the camber. Some negative camber would help as you point out - I've seen varying comments about the 10mm camber bolts. Anyone have some real world views on using these with a 145?
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QUOTE(effkay @ 8th August 2016 10:39) *
I should have a Fiat Coupe thicker rear anti-roll bar coming today. So fitting that should help with some of the corner roll - should be a quick job to do before Saturday's track day.

Regarding your camber point above, as the holes are fixed, I haven't been able to amend the camber. Some negative camber would help as you point out - I've seen varying comments about the 10mm camber bolts. Anyone have some real world views on using these with a 145?



You can fit lancia lybra lower wishbones which are 15mm longer and therefore will make pretty decent negative camber, I've seen it and it looks like a proper track car

The coupe 20vt front arb is 2mm thicker.

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While it was out, I cleaned all the parts and repaired some surface rust on the rad support:







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Know what you mean. Mine was shot before I had it shot-blasted and there was even less left! Still, it's lighter now! The pics with the rubber mounts will come in useful when I reassemble mine back together. Was the serpentine power steering pipe new or did you have one made up?


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QUOTE(pyle @ 8th August 2016 18:54) *
You can fit lancia lybra lower wishbones which are 15mm longer and therefore will make pretty decent negative camber, I've seen it and it looks like a proper track car

The coupe 20vt front arb is 2mm thicker.


I brought the Powerflex camber bolts, advertised for a 145 on eBay and they ended up being 12mm too big! To go down to 10mm.. I've never seen those advertised.

I've got 20vt front and rear ARBs on mine. Waiting for the day I can use them sad.gif


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QUOTE(pyle @ 8th August 2016 18:54) *
You can fit lancia lybra lower wishbones which are 15mm longer and therefore will make pretty decent negative camber, I've seen it and it looks like a proper track car

The coupe 20vt front arb is 2mm thicker.


Hmm thats something to consider - better to do a proper job than use the camber bolts. Will try the new tyres and thicker rear bar this weekend and then see if I need to do more.

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Know what you mean. Mine was shot before I had it shot-blasted and there was even less left! Still, it's lighter now! The pics with the rubber mounts will come in useful when I reassemble mine back together. Was the serpentine power steering pipe new or did you have one made up?


The power steering cooling pipe and clips were still in good conditions - just cleaned it up and reattached after painting.


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I brought the Powerflex camber bolts, advertised for a 145 on eBay and they ended up being 12mm too big! To go down to 10mm.. I've never seen those advertised.

I've got 20vt front and rear ARBs on mine. Waiting for the day I can use them sad.gif


I didn't bother with the thicker front bar - I hear stiffening the front roll bar can induce a little understeer and I that its a complete pain of a job to do unlike the rear. Good luck with yours!

10mm camber bolts are available here - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Alfa-145-146-94-...K-/231410249724

As Pyle has stated, for only double the money though you can get the wider Lancia Lybra wishbones which seems to be the same as the Fiat Multipla's. I will go this route if needed as heard camber bolts can give you issues if used hard on track: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251219167559?_tr...K%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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Hello, effkay!

Glad to know you're hitting the tracks with your QV. Love the latest onboard video with the helmet cam!

Regarding the discussion about wear on the front tyres: do you remember the tyre pressures you used last event? Cold and/or hot?

Despite having sport springs and dampers the car is still showing a reasonable amount of body roll. I recommend sorting that out first before changing suspension geometry. The stiffer rear ARB will probably make the rear end more loose, I believe this will help the front tyres work while wearing out less.

Since the tyres you are using seem to have fairly stiff sidewalls, another thing that could help reduce wear on the outer edge is go for a set of wheels with wider rims, it offers better tyre sidewall support during corner loads.

Have fun on your next event! Get some pics and vids here when you can thumbsup.gif


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I didn't have time to change the rear anti-roll bar due to visiting family - I think that will be a winter job along with the wider lower wishbones, but the new NS-2R tires worked really well on track in the early damp conditions and also in the hot afternoon. No other issues to report luckily smile.gif

Here is a YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3aGzfx0D8A

Also I went to Prescott Vintage Sports Car Club Hillclimb on August 6-7th - pictures linked below if you are interested:

http://s922.photobucket.com/user/effkay84/...20August%202016

Example action photos below:





















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QUOTE(cesar86 @ 11th August 2016 00:35) *
Regarding the discussion about wear on the front tyres: do you remember the tyre pressures you used last event? Cold and/or hot?


Forgot to say - tyres were set to 28psi and increased to around 34-36psi after a 15min session.
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Also just a fun slow motion video of me just missing that cone which appeared in the middle of the chicane:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9GkHHJEmkM
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Got the bonnet props installed last night and tidied up some old rusty bolts:















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How do you find opening the bonnet now ? whistle.gif


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How do you find opening the bonnet now ? whistle.gif


Easy peasy! smile.gif


PS. looking at those photos using the flash, the engine bay really needs a good clean and detail...


...sigh, where to find the time!

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Looking good thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(effkay @ 18th August 2016 13:45) *
Easy peasy! smile.gif
PS. looking at those photos using the flash, the engine bay really needs a good clean and detail...
...sigh, where to find the time!




i used some engine clear detailing lacquer but that mage the Dirt stick like sh/t :doh


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Why not loose the turn signal to let fresh air to the intake if its only driven on track. And if I were you I'd lower the rear end a bit so as to move some to the rear end.
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Why not loose the turn signal to let fresh air to the intake if its only driven on track. And if I were you I'd lower the rear end a bit so as to move some to the rear end.


Good ideas, but unfortunately I drive it to and from track so I need to keep the indicators - I don't have room for a trailer. I am working on a cold air inlet to direct air from the already removed fog light and a separation panel in the engine bay to keep hot air away from the intake. Bank holiday weekend coming up before Pembrey the following weekend on Sept 2nd, so will have it done for then.

The front and rear springs are already FK lowered ones, but still could do with being 20mm or so lower on the front and 10mm on the rear. Tricky to be sure which to buy as really need to compare them to those already on the car...may keep my eyes on some cheap used ones and sort over winter.

My brother who is an ex Alfa Romeo dealership mechanic was already surprised how loose the rear end was enabling better turn in, then this should increase even more when I fit the rear anti-roll bar. I think the front wheel camber using longer lower wishbones will be the best change I can make - keeping more contact patch in the corners and less wear on the tyre edges.

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Lowering the rear will help with the tailhappines.Ive tried 30mm lower rear end and the change of direction is very much improved..but still too much steering input for a small change of direction..
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So I've been working on my under bonnet temps, and fitted new pads for Pembrey track day tomorrow...

Got a lovely polished manifold heatsheild from Lee (black 146) who I also got the bonnet props from:





Then began making a cardboard template for cold air intake airbox:





And made some simple brackets and cut/bent the 0.8mm aluminium to suit:















The hardest part was removing the old lower airbox - its massive and weighs loads!



While there, I did some corrosion protection to the bumper support arms (i.e. metal brush, rust treatment & black stonechip paint) then drilled fixing holes for the trumpet intake brackets so it comes through the front left fog light:









I wrapped the airbox in heat reflective tape, added rubber trim to edges and fitted:







TBC...

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