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post 2nd September 2011 19:00
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Hi all 1st time forum poster due to some queries I have on my 1998 R cloverleaf I bought the car with 99000 mls on her at some point an owner has signed up to the alfas owners club and spent a tidy some on her but sadly since then
She has been abused and thrashed Since I got her 2 weeks ago I have bad a garage replaced the alternator a drop link on the anti roll bar. She still has a whine comin when I rev her thinkin maybe a power steering pump what really bothers me is I thought the 2.0 twin spark cloverleaf had a variation in the valves which gave a boost at high revs kinda like a vtec which my car does not have this it still pulls really well through the gears but no boost how can I check everything is how it should be? And if no boost at high revs does this mean an after Market cam has been fitted any input would be welcome thanks guys look forward to a reply blink.gif
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post 2nd September 2011 20:55
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With regards to the variable valve timing, that was only fitted to the CF2 engine (plastic top) onwards on twinsparks, if you have an alloy top, you have a CF1 engine which doesn't have it. Don't worry though, the power difference is barely noticeable (about 5bhp) and can be sorted with a decent air filter. Also the CF1 engine is less fragile than the CF2, it'd be my pick of engine any day.


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post 2nd September 2011 21:07
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With regards to the variable valve timing, that was only fitted to the CF2 engine (plastic top) onwards on twinsparks, if you have an alloy top, you have a CF1 engine which doesn't have it. Don't worry though, the power difference is barely noticeable (about 5bhp) and can be sorted with a decent air filter. Also the CF1 engine is less fragile than the CF2, it'd be my pick of engine any day.

you're thinking of variable length inlet manifold, all tsparks have variators except the 1.4 i think


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post 2nd September 2011 21:13
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QUOTE(Bristolbilly @ 2nd September 2011 20:00) *
Hi all 1st time forum poster due to some queries I have on my 1998 R cloverleaf I bought the car with 99000 mls on her at some point an owner has signed up to the alfas owners club and spent a tidy some on her but sadly since then
She has been abused and thrashed Since I got her 2 weeks ago I have bad a garage replaced the alternator a drop link on the anti roll bar. She still has a whine comin when I rev her thinkin maybe a power steering pump what really bothers me is I thought the 2.0 twin spark cloverleaf had a variation in the valves which gave a boost at high revs kinda like a vtec which my car does not have this it still pulls really well through the gears but no boost how can I check everything is how it should be? And if no boost at high revs does this mean an after Market cam has been fitted any input would be welcome thanks guys look forward to a reply blink.gif


With regards to the 'boost' you describe there isn't really one, maybe an increased pick up at about 3k rpm but not a boost, are you thinking of vvtli which is variable valve timing with lift? where it raises the cam profile at about 5k rpm like on the later 190 celica? no such think on the ts's


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post 2nd September 2011 21:28
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The only boost of power i can feel on my CF1 TS engine is between 2500-4000rpm which is when the phase variator operates. Above 4k rpm the engine climbs real nice up to 7k rpm, but there's no ninja kick in acceleration at high rpms like in the VTEC Honda engines.

What you can do in your car as a test is go real slow in low revs, say around 2k rpm in 1st or 2nd gear, then hit the throttle hard and see if you feel a small boost of power after 2.5-3k rpm.

Only the CF2 and CF3 TS engines have variable length inlet manifold, don't they?


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post 2nd September 2011 23:35
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in my 145 there is a slight boost in power you can feel, certainly in 3rd gear from 5k onwards...but that is only available on the later facelift CF2 engines.


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post 3rd September 2011 16:05
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Aah by the sounds of things I've got it all ass about face with what I expected from the engine.
On the othere hand if you ignore the problems I've had it did drive and pull really nice just need to fix the interia change the lancia wheels and possibly do some welding and then maybe I can get to drive it again thanks for the help guys
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post 3rd September 2011 18:05
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We know your car well on here (assuming it has the letters AUR in the number plate) biggrin.gif Glad to hear it's still alive smile.gif


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post 3rd September 2011 18:25
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QUOTE(GialloEvo94 @ 3rd September 2011 19:05) *
We know your car well on here (assuming it has the letters AUR in the number plate) biggrin.gif Glad to hear it's still alive smile.gif


I was thinking the same when he said change the lancia wheels. coolio.gif
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post 3rd September 2011 18:33
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I was thinking the same when he said change the lancia wheels. coolio.gif

It was the Bristol thing that originally caught my eye as that car has been in the Bristol area for a couple of years now passing between various owners but the mention of the integrale 8v wheels appears to have confirmed it biggrin.gif


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post 4th September 2011 11:42
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It was the Bristol thing that originally caught my eye as that car has been in the Bristol area for a couple of years now passing between various owners but the mention of the integrale 8v wheels appears to have confirmed it biggrin.gif



Ah I see yes it is the car got it from Swindon off of pistonheads swapped it for a mr2 I had but it has not been looked after at all no change of oil interia is fallin apart wheels are all scanned up and kirbed but lookin to turn her around and use her as a weekend toy while I rebuild an rs turbo very impressed thou
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post 4th September 2011 13:55
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OOOO and RS Turbo eh? I know its an Alfa site but I've always had a thing for Russys, any pics?


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post 4th September 2011 16:52
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OOOO and RS Turbo eh? I know its an Alfa site but I've always had a thing for Russys, any pics?



Lol unfortunly it's just a shell at the mo as bein an old ford it is rotted throu I've replaced the front floor pans inner and outer sills bonnet front cross member rear arches and boot lid but sadly all my pics are on my old dead computer but next time I'm up there I'll grad a few and some how figer out how to post em on here il also grab some of the alfa as she will probbleby get a make over as well just this time hopefully a rollin one has anyone had a problem with the seat rails?? As my pas one just slides back and forth and a little gold lookin clip has came off? Also anyone no how easy it is to fix a saggy roof lining and saggy cloth door cards?? Lookin to do it my self with a friend who is good with that sort of stuff.
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post 8th September 2011 13:34
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Car is in the garage havin a new alternator and drop link. I am happy I've had the chance to get underneath and check it was not rotted out as a RAC bloke has told me the floor pans were goosed. I'm actually over the moon all it needs is a clean up and undercoat no wielding thank god as I think I've had enough of cuttin rot out. I am still worried about the cost of the alternator But atleast I will be able to drive it for more than 2hrs. Witch is always a plus side!
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post 8th September 2011 13:43
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QUOTE(Bristolbilly @ 3rd September 2011 17:05) *
Aah by the sounds of things I've got it all ass about face with what I expected from the engine.
On the othere hand if you ignore the problems I've had it did drive and pull really nice just need to fix the interia change the lancia wheels and possibly do some welding and then maybe I can get to drive it again thanks for the help guys


A bit of an insight to how she was once... http://forum.alfa145.com/index.php?&ac...E=12&CID=12

Did a few passenger laps around Nurburgring in this, back in 2006 - great car!
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post 8th September 2011 14:06
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QUOTE(hazeyblue @ 8th September 2011 14:43) *
A bit of an insight to how she was once... http://forum.alfa145.com/index.php?&ac...E=12&CID=12

Did a few passenger laps around Nurburgring in this, back in 2006 - great car!


Bloody hell Can't get over how different it looks alot has changed since these were taken. The strut brace has gone at some point gear nob has gone the inside is recked with stains and seats that do what they want and. Things fallin off all over the place and those wheels actually looked nice on it for a change. I had a feeling someone had put a lot of into it at some point just a shame the last owner trashed it. when I get it back I'll take a few snaps before i start getting it ready for paint and show you the difference
Cheers for that mate gave me a real insight to it's history!
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does any one know if there is anyone local to Sheffield that can get hold of a fast road cam for my alfa 145 18 ts and how much
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