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post 18th November 2019 06:54
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I recently purchased a 1998 Alfa Romeo 1.7L 16v (19/10/19). I took a shuttle bus from Christchurch, New Zealand and travelled south to Dunedin. I met the owner's son at the bus stop. The owner's son had driven his father's car to Dunedin to sell. I drove the Alfa home to Hamilton. Hamilton is in the North Island an hour and half's drive from Auckland New Zealand's largest city. The trip was part of my holiday and added at least 21/2 thousand kilometres to the odometer which now reads 109,000.
I want to flush the radiator which has rust, change the spark plugs and change the oil. To save costs I am going to do this myself.

I will drain the coolant from header tank and radiator and introduce distilled water which I will circulate until the water is cleaner. I will then introduce the coolant.
No doubt others have drained the radiator on their car and removed and replaced the spark plugs.
Can those more knowledgeable than me offer any advice to make this work easier? I have neighbours at the front constantly working on their B.M.W.s and so have an added source of advice and tools to borrow.
Brent, Hamilton, N.Z.

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post 18th November 2019 10:05
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Hey Buttons!

welcome aboard!!

any chance of a pic of the beast??
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post 18th November 2019 11:41
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Welcome, is it a boxer engine ?
I should think spark plugs and coolant drain should be pretty straight forward
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post 18th November 2019 19:30
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There are coolant drain plugs in the block on the boxer engines, though there are also oil drain plugs in the same sort of area and unfortunately, the picture in the manual doesn't clear things up very well:

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The spark plugs on the left hand side of the engine are easier to access but quite deeply recessed so you will need a selection of suitable extensions to go with your spark plug socket. The right hand side is much tighter and may require using a few smaller extensions, adding them as you need to as you might not have enough room to swing a longer one in. I seem to remember being able to access the rear right one (cylinder 4?) through the nearside wheel arch so you might find going in that way easier.
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post 28th November 2019 06:31
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QUOTE(waynedear @ 18th November 2019 11:41) *
Welcome, is it a boxer engine ?
I should think spark plugs and coolant drain should be pretty straight forward


Thank you for your reply. Yes, it is a boxer engine.
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post 28th November 2019 06:51
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QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 18th November 2019 10:05) *
Hey Buttons!

welcome aboard!!

any chance of a pic of the beast??


Thank you for replying Dante. Bear with me while I get the pics loaded:[attachment=Attached Image

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Thank you for replying Dante. Bear with me while I get the pics loaded:[attachment=Attached Image

And the pics are not very clear. I will upload some other ones soon.
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post 28th November 2019 09:28
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looks like you are having a bit of trouble attaching stuff there, Buttons.

you know you can use 'Choose File' then 'UPLOAD' which appear under the text pane on the right, when you add to the thread?


Proteo Red- a classic Alfa colour!
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post 29th November 2019 20:02
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QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 28th November 2019 09:28) *
looks like you are having a bit of trouble attaching stuff there, Buttons.

you know you can use 'Choose File' then 'UPLOAD' which appear under the text pane on the right, when you add to the thread?
Proteo Red- a classic Alfa colour!


I didn't know that and so appreciate your advice. The photos are being sent to me from the website 'TradeMe' which advertised the Alfa.

Dante I was stunned to see that online there is even advice on how to replace the cover for the cigarette lighter and and ashtray. A lug must have worn and so the cover doesn't sit back but that I will not change.

I want to first replace the coolant. Another contributor has said there are both coolant and drain plugs at the base of the engine and so not to confuse the two.

Next week I take the car for a Warrant of Fitness. I will ask the inspector why, when there is a groove on the wheel in front of the air conditioning condenser, there is no second belt there. Also one of the belts is bit tacky so perhaps a little bit of oil leaking from somewhere. The oil level, however, when I returned 2,500km from the bottom of the South Island to the top of the North was the same. Things leak as they age; the same thing will happen to us!
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post 8th December 2019 02:56
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QUOTE(Buttons @ 29th November 2019 20:02) *
I didn't know that and so appreciate your advice. The photos are being sent to me from the website 'TradeMe' which advertised the Alfa.

Dante I was stunned to see that online there is even advice on how to replace the cover for the cigarette lighter and and ashtray. A lug must have worn and so the cover doesn't sit back but that I will not change.

I want to first replace the coolant. Another contributor has said there are both coolant and drain plugs at the base of the engine and so not to confuse the two.

Next week I take the car for a Warrant of Fitness. I will ask the inspector why, when there is a groove on the wheel in front of the air conditioning condenser, there is no second belt there. Also one of the belts is bit tacky so perhaps a little bit of oil leaking from somewhere. The oil level, however, when I returned 2,500km from the bottom of the South Island to the top of the North was the same. Things leak as they age; the same thing will happen to us!



These are the pictures you asked for Dante. The car passed the warrant. The front left brake pads are not releasing and so the front wheel doesn't move freely. It could be the caliper piston. In this case I will have to source another one. anyways, here are the pictures:

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post 8th December 2019 20:47
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hey Buttons!

Wow- thanks for posting these pictures!

What a lovely example!

If you've got the initial 2500km 'commute' out of the way, then things can only be easier from here on in!

A front brake-calliper is a small price for true road-worthiness; lucky you.

How do you mean, regarding the ashtray? Will it not stow-away upwards?

You've got these wonderful boxer-trim details of matt-black internal & external door handles- I love it.

An oil change an a coolant swap will do wonders for it- are you missing an electric-mirrors controller there?

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QUOTE(Buttons @ 8th December 2019 02:56) *
These are the pictures you asked for Dante. The car passed the warrant. The front left brake pads are not releasing and so the front wheel doesn't move freely. It could be the caliper piston. In this case I will have to source another one. anyways, here are the pictures:

Nice example, thanks for sharing.
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QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 8th December 2019 20:47) *
hey Buttons!

Wow- thanks for posting these pictures!

What a lovely example!

If you've got the initial 2500km 'commute' out of the way, then things can only be easier from here on in!

A front brake-calliper is a small price for true road-worthiness; lucky you.

How do you mean, regarding the ashtray? Will it not stow-away upwards?

You've got these wonderful boxer-trim details of matt-black internal & external door handles- I love it.

An oil change an a coolant swap will do wonders for it- are you missing an electric-mirrors controller there?


Thank you Dante. I think it is a good example and well worth maintaining.
Dante with the neighbour's help I have changed the coolant. I have also had a brake fluid hose replaced. There was no problem with the calliper. The brake fluid couldn't get through the hose because the rubber tubing was perishing. There were pieces of rubbing preventing the flow of brake fluid. As a result there was heat building up. However problem now solved.
Yes the ashtray won't stow way upwards. Apparently over the years a lug which allows the cover to be pressed to release then pressed again to click into place is worn. I don't care. I am not interested in replacing it.
Yes, I am missing the electric mirrors controller.
The right hand mirror could do with a tweak inwards. With no controller, however, what to do?

Oil can be changed in January. I would like to change the spark plugs sooner preferably before I travel to Auckland for Christmas. Perhaps the neighbours again might help.
The mechanic who replaced the brake fluid hosing said I might need to look at the clutch at some stage but I won't consider it at the moment.

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Hey Buttons, great stuff!

I think if your car could talk it would say 'thank you!' every time you are near it!

It's very lovely to hear of owners cherishing these examples now, upon finding them, and planning ahead on mechanical tasks.

If you have to go to Auckland, but will be performing an oil-change next year; the next best thing is to keep it topped up.
I never travel without a 1 litre tin of oil, and always try to check the level halfway through a big journey- every three hours.

You should just be able to 'poke the mirror glass' to get the angle you want. A combination of a very slight play in the mount, also the occasional ability to force the motor-gearbox round; usually gets a result. I've certainly done it in the past for various reasons, but I wouldn't make a habit of it.

Would you like me to try and source a mirror-controller here in the UK for you, and send it across?



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post 11th December 2019 05:09
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QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 10th December 2019 13:49) *
Hey Buttons, great stuff!

I think if your car could talk it would say 'thank you!' every time you are near it!

It's very lovely to hear of owners cherishing these examples now, upon finding them, and planning ahead on mechanical tasks.

If you have to go to Auckland, but will be performing an oil-change next year; the next best thing is to keep it topped up.
I never travel without a 1 litre tin of oil, and always try to check the level halfway through a big journey- every three hours.

You should just be able to 'poke the mirror glass' to get the angle you want. A combination of a very slight play in the mount, also the occasional ability to force the motor-gearbox round; usually gets a result. I've certainly done it in the past for various reasons, but I wouldn't make a habit of it.

Would you like me to try and source a mirror-controller here in the UK for you, and send it across?


I will try to see if the poking technique adjusts the mirror first. There are no wires where the mirror controller is. They look as though they have been tucked down in the hole where the controller sat. However I could take you up on the offer in the New Year. The same goes for clutch plate if there is nothing closer.
Immediately I will check the oil level before tour as you advise.
What spark plugs fit this vehicle? Put another way do I always have to buy more expensive plugs simply because it is an Alfa Romeo?
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What spark plugs fit this vehicle? Put another way do I always have to buy more expensive plugs simply because it is an Alfa Romeo?


that sounds like a loaded question- I wouldn't say they were more expensive 'because' it is an Alfa Romeo- I would simply say that you will need the correct ones for the car!

However; I'm afraid I can't answer your core question; have you looked in the workshop manuals section..?

http://www.alfa145.com/upload/Alfa145Manua...01712%2016v.PDF

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QUOTE(Buttons @ 11th December 2019 05:09) *
What spark plugs fit this vehicle? Put another way do I always have to buy more expensive plugs simply because it is an Alfa Romeo?


You need NGK PFR6B (3500) for the 16v boxer. Should be readily available and fairly inexpensive.
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QUOTE(Buttons @ 10th December 2019 08:45) *
I have also had a brake fluid hose replaced. There was no problem with the calliper. The brake fluid couldn't get through the hose because the rubber tubing was perishing. There were pieces of rubbing preventing the flow of brake fluid.


I was going to suggest just that - I had exactly the same issue on my 145 earlier this year. It's a relief to find an easy fix for a problem like that!

Your car looks beautiful, by the way - I hope you are enjoying owning it and driving it!
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Some BMW bikes have the same brake hose issue, rubber inside breaks down and blocks the hose, boy it was expensive to replace all 5 hoses on a K1100.
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You need NGK PFR6B (3500) for the 16v boxer. Should be readily available and fairly inexpensive.


Thank you. Will hunt for those spark plugs.
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