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post 27th March 2013 12:25
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Audi A3 2.0 FSi Sportback from 2005. 150hp, sportish name, rock hard suspension and seats and very un-exciting and rather disconnected to drive.

Here are the real issues though:

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One stupid and now broken DMF arrangement, presumably to stop the mediocre only-just-built-to-tolerance gearbox from exploding...

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Which is exactly what has happened here. Thanks Volkwagen you tossers! rant.gif


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post 27th March 2013 12:30
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Bad luck sad.gif
I know a lot of VAG people upgrade to fixed mass flywheels on clutch replacement as they are much cheaper than the standard dual mass flywheels - but from my passenger experience it increases the vibrations felt through the chassis.


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post 27th March 2013 13:57
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why dont people buy petrols?! so much cheaper to maintain and run! you just dont need all that torque in a 3 door hatchback.




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post 27th March 2013 15:08
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QUOTE(NaanBread @ 27th March 2013 13:57) *
why dont people buy petrols?! so much cheaper to maintain and run! you just dont need all that torque in a 3 door hatchback.

The FSi engine is a petrol engine wink.gif


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post 27th March 2013 16:14
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QUOTE(GialloEvo94 @ 27th March 2013 16:08) *
The FSi engine is a petrol engine wink.gif

Haha Nathan you dipshit!!! hahah


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post 27th March 2013 18:52
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6 Speed? that age of 6 speed has a reputation for being weak sad.gif

As for the DMF, as AJ said, most people who care more about reliability than refinement fit SMF conversion kits, but they are worse for vibration on the Diesels, for some ungodly reason they fitted DMF's to all the petrols aswell!! it helps with torque delivery to the fragile 6 speed boxes but makes the flywheels a consumable part! and an expensive one at that!


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post 27th March 2013 18:55
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Well... That's that pretty much designated as bin material. Took it to a guy in Nottingham and he has found:

6th gear is f**ked
3rd gear is badly worn
Crownwheel has a big chunk missing out of it
Obviously, the casing is bu**ered too

Over 700 to make useable. Time to look on eBay me thinks.

Mind you, he did speak most highly about Alfa gearboxes! rolleyes.gif


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post 28th March 2013 10:48
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QUOTE(AJ @ 27th March 2013 12:30) *
I know a lot of VAG people upgrade to fixed mass flywheels on clutch replacement as they are much cheaper than the standard dual mass flywheels - but from my passenger experience it increases the vibrations felt through the chassis.

I did look into the conversion kit, but then found a full Sachs DMF kit for 360, so I went with that. Also, my reckoning was that someone who supposedly knew what they were doing designed this heap of junk to have a DMF, so I wasn't going to change it.

This was confirmed by Scott (the gearbox guy) who has performed conversions before and said that a solid flywheel would make the car horrible to drive in any sort of traffic.
QUOTE(Hybrd @ 27th March 2013 18:52) *
6 Speed? that age of 6 speed has a reputation for being weak sad.gif

After a bit of t'Internetting, I've found shitloads of failures with these crappy gearboxes, and it's not just the 6 speed ones either, it seems to be pretty much across the range of 02x type gearboxes, even some as low as 20,000 to 30,000 miles have failed in a similar and spectacular way. It says a lot when VAG don't have any of the cover/bell housing plate in stock in the UK.

Modern German cars can go bo****ks, I'm sticking with my galactic-mileage Alfa! coolio.gif


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post 28th March 2013 13:54
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QUOTE(GialloEvo94 @ 27th March 2013 15:08) *
The FSi engine is a petrol engine wink.gif


Awkward moment....


I thought I was told it was diesel when I was Fins couple of weeks back.


Moral of the story has to change then...Dont buy VAG or anything nazi laugh.gif


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post 28th March 2013 22:45
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Dont buy a anything that has a DMF biggrin.gif
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post 28th March 2013 22:47
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DMF's are generally a PITA, whatever vehicle they are in! However, some vehicles are worse than others. We have Shogun ones that are fairly common to go for over a grand, and Nissan might as well have made their Navara DMF's out of paper mache rolleyes.gif


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post 29th March 2013 00:21
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how do they work or how different are they to the ones use?


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