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rossoscozia
post 15th September 2020 12:29
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So this morning I went out to start the car as I hadn't driven it for about 4 or 5 days and after turning over briefly and failing to start I came to the conclusion that the ebattery was flat. I noticed on the dash that the boot was open so went out to try and shut it and it is just slamming but not locking. I am thinking that it's been open since last week and the boot ligth being on because of this has drained the battery. I've not long owned the car but noticed the boot has always been difficult to close and it takes a slamming to get it done. Is there any way of adjusting the lock to the hatch or are th elocks known to fail over time? Just trying to assess if I need to source a new one or if it can be realigned/adjusted. Thanks
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post 15th September 2020 20:17
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QUOTE(rossoscozia @ 15th September 2020 13:29) *
So this morning I went out to start the car as I hadn't driven it for about 4 or 5 days and after turning over briefly and failing to start I came to the conclusion that the ebattery was flat. I noticed on the dash that the boot was open so went out to try and shut it and it is just slamming but not locking. I am thinking that it's been open since last week and the boot ligth being on because of this has drained the battery. I've not long owned the car but noticed the boot has always been difficult to close and it takes a slamming to get it done. Is there any way of adjusting the lock to the hatch or are th elocks known to fail over time? Just trying to assess if I need to source a new one or if it can be realigned/adjusted. Thanks


Mine used to do the same causing the boot light to stay on, bit I'm struggling to remember how I fixed it. I think I just adjusted the catch on the lip of the boot floor as I didn't buy a replacement lock. I think the hatch side was a bit loose as well so wasn't catching. Had to do the same on the Giulietta once as well.

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post 15th September 2020 20:57
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Thanks. I actually managed to get it locked after charging the battery back up. Mustn't have been locking because of that this morning but still needs looking at as it's not closing right.
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post 16th September 2020 13:27
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The lock catch is adjustable. From memory, you can get access to the securing bolts by removing a couple of plugs either side of the catch in the lower trim panel.

It's a nice easy job!
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post 16th September 2020 16:10
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Cheers. Maybe just need to move it forward a touch. It's on this weekends job list although the 166 needs the front brakes changed so prioritsing that for Monday's MOT!
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post 16th September 2020 19:58
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I'm confused and a bit worried to read this

my CF2 146.gif knocks out the bootlight after a few minutes; is this staying-on-thing a CF1 anomaly, or a 145.gif thing...?


On my FIAT Coupe, there's a unit called the body-control-module which lives under the driver's seat, and handles stuff like the auto-drivers' window, central locking, and the cabin / bootlight timeout. We don't have that in these cars; the functionality appears to be elsewhere...
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post 17th September 2020 19:32
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Central locking now not working either. Was before I charged the battery. Strange.....
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post 17th September 2020 21:40
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QUOTE(rossoscozia @ 17th September 2020 20:32) *
Central locking now not working either. Was before I charged the battery. Strange.....


by 'central locking' do you mean; with the key in the lock? Or from the keyfob??

That is odd...
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post 17th September 2020 22:07
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Car did have the dealer fit Philips alarm which the owner had disconnected due to problems and was using the key in the door lock. However, they had a problem with the ignition barrel so got a replacement from a donor car which meant 1 key for the doors and another for the ignition. To make life easier and not have to carry two keys they then had a local auto electrician fit a central locking fob to lock/unlock it. I've tried th original keys for the car and none of them manage to lock/unlock the doors or boot.

The locking is possibly not working if there is a fault with one of the locks. The 166 is infamous for this.
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post 18th September 2020 09:11
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QUOTE(rossoscozia @ 17th September 2020 23:07) *
Car did have the dealer fit Philips alarm which the owner had disconnected due to problems and was using the key in the door lock. However, they had a problem with the ignition barrel so got a replacement from a donor car which meant 1 key for the doors and another for the ignition. To make life easier and not have to carry two keys they then had a local auto electrician fit a central locking fob to lock/unlock it. I've tried th original keys for the car and none of them manage to lock/unlock the doors or boot.

The locking is possibly not working if there is a fault with one of the locks. The 166 is infamous for this.


Do you mean; no mechanical functionality; as in the keys will not unlock the car, in the door locks?

Or that non of the remote fobs will work?

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post 18th September 2020 21:22
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Yes. So, key goes into the door lock but when you turn it either direction it neither locks/unlocks. Keyfob when pressed: door locks then immediately unlocks.

After a drive today it suddenly decided to lock when using the fob!

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post 19th September 2020 07:01
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QUOTE(rossoscozia @ 18th September 2020 22:22) *
Yes. So, key goes into the door lock but when you turn it either direction it neither locks/unlocks. Keyfob when pressed: door locks then immediately unlocks.

After a drive today it suddenly decided to lock when using the fob!


Er, well, that's great then! (I suppose)

My kind of fix!!
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post 20th September 2020 11:59
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sounds like Self Healing Italian Technology to me


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post 20th September 2020 21:49
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QUOTE(sanitary @ 20th September 2020 12:59) *
sounds like Self Healing Italian Technology to me
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Funny

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post 22nd September 2020 20:15
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Never got the chance to look at it as I ended up spending two days at the weekend digging a soakaway in the garden. Never got the 166 brakes done either but it did pass the mot yesterday anyway, which was good.
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post 22nd September 2020 23:57
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QUOTE(rossoscozia @ 22nd September 2020 21:15) *
Never got the chance to look at it as I ended up spending two days at the weekend digging a soakaway in the garden. Never got the 166 brakes done either but it did pass the mot yesterday anyway, which was good.



well; that's terrific then!

after reading this thread; it made me think about the bootlight on the 146.gif and today, whilst working in the back of my girlfriend's garage; I timed it, and noticed that the bootlight went out after exactly 20 minutes...

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post 23rd September 2020 12:26
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QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 23rd September 2020 00:57) *
well; that's terrific then!

after reading this thread; it made me think about the bootlight on the 146.gif and today, whilst working in the back of my girlfriend's garage; I timed it, and noticed that the bootlight went out after exactly 20 minutes...


That's interesting - a long delay. I just assumed it stayed on permanently. A sensible feature when you see cars on dealers forecourts with all the boots open.
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post 24th September 2020 13:57
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I suppose so-

but lets be honest; how many 146's do you see on forecourts with the boots open now??!!

Did they do that, 'back then'..?


It's made me wonder how it works though; there must be a timer-relay; I'm going to look into it...
Funny to think it should be able to be transferred to a 145 also...
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post 25th October 2020 15:45
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Finally got round to looking at this today and managed to fix it! I thought the adjustment was only up and down but after loosening it I noticed it moves side to side also, quite a bit as it turns out. When closing the boot I could hear the catch on the hatch sort of clunking as it connected with the part attached above the bumper. When I moved the hatch slightly to the right just as it was connecting I noticed it shut with no noise. So moved the catch to the left a few mm and now closing perfect. I also adjusted the two rubber bumpstops at each corner of the hatch as I noticed these were adjusted all the way out. Shuts fine now and the central locking working again now it seems to realise the boot is properly shut. Nice easy fix.
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post 26th October 2020 13:47
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Or maybe not....

Opened it today then was still getting the issue with it shutting!
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