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rossoscozia
post 15th September 2020 09:48
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Hi All,

Picked up a 'new' Alfa 145 QV a few weeks ago from a local lady and now in the process of starting to restore it. It's not my first 145 as I did have one 20 years ago, an S plate 145 Junior. That car was my first ever Alfa and I've since had a many different Alfas after that one. I am currently running a Giulietta and a 166 alongside the 145.

It's an early phase 1 model on an N plate and the previous owner had owned it since 2004 so it was a big part of her life. Sadly she now needs to drive an automatic so could no longer run the 145. It was sold as for restoration or spares but still has a valid MOT until December. From what I can gather the obvious things it needs to restore it are mainly cosmetic - it really needs a respray, the wheels need refurbed, the door cards re-upholstered, the headlining needs re-done, that sort of stuff. Mechanically there are a couple of minor suspension items noted from lasts years MOT and it needs the belts doing and a service. The previous owner had kept up with all the other maintenance and servicing over the years and about 4 years ago when the car started to require welding work has tackled lots of that too. From the receipts it appears that both sills have been done, the floor pan welded in the usual places, welding to the boot floor and both of the front suspension turrets have been done. It did get a mention at last years mot that the front chassis legs appeared to have corrosion but I will get a better look at it over the next few weeks when I can get it up onto the ramp. If I can prioritise any mechanicals and service items to get it solid and through the MOT then that's my immediate priority, then I can tackle the aesthetics next year. The car is very original with only 3 owners and a folder full of history and original paperwork.

It's been good fun being back in a 145 and I forgot how good they are to drive. I'm looking forward to keeping this one on the road. I have a few queries already on some bits needing doing to it but I will post these outwith this.
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dante giacosa
post 15th September 2020 18:05
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hey Scozia,

Welcome along!

Wow- I can't believe this is in Larbert!

It's a bumper month/year/decade for these cars North of the border, now!!
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post 15th September 2020 18:52
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Welcome to the forum, looks to be a good project / find! As Dante says, cant believe this 145 has been hiding out in Larbert!
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post 15th September 2020 20:50
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Yeah, started off life in London then the doctor who owned it relocated to Edinburgh and brought the 145 with them. It was traded in to Labinjoh back when he was in the West End and the lady i bought it from purchased it from there. Ironically i went to look at this car when it was up for sale in Labinjoh's showroom back in 2004 after I had sold my 20VT Coupe and was looking for a runabout. I ended up buying a Mk2 16v GTi instead which was a disaster! Strange how things work out....

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hey Scozia,

Welcome along!

Wow- I can't believe this is in Larbert!

It's a bumper month/year/decade for these cars North of the border, now!!


Out of interest did you end up taking on that 166? Recognise your usename from Alfabook!
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post 15th September 2020 22:44
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crikey; it's the first time the small world of Italian cars has caught up with ME from behind!!!

Do you mean, Alfa Owner? I'm not sure I'm on AlfaBook...🤔

As it happens (thankyou for asking) I'm hoping to take on the 166 tomorrow... What flavour have you got yourself?


Mawv is north of the border too, Scozia..
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post 16th September 2020 09:53
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Maybe it was Alfaowner! So many different platforms these days!

I have an 05 plate 2.0 Ti, so the facelift one. It's my fourth 166 over the years. Previously had an X reg 2.5, a W reg 3.0 Super and a 55 plate Twinnie facelift. Bought this one with a knackered gearbox and have recently had a second hand one slung in and a new clutch. MOT next week so everything crossed as it's been sat for a while.

Hope you have good luck with your 166. They are good cars to drive and own.

Also have a Giulietta which has gone into the bodyshop today to get some work done tarting up a few battlescars. Going to be an expensive month.

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post 16th September 2020 13:12
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Glad you stepped in to save that 145 - it was on Facebook for a little while, right?

(And the 166 Ti rescued, too!)

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post 16th September 2020 16:04
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Yep, on Facebook. It's funny as I used to walk past it for years and thought that it wasn't used as I never seen it out on the roads locally. For the last year or so I was intending to chap on their door, find out more about it and see if they'd sell then literally as I was waiting until the end of August to get my Brera away (someone had agreed to buy it but was collecting it from down south) it popped up on Facebook. It turns out they had put it up on Facebook earlier in the year but then lockdown hit and they mothballed selling it for a while, much to my luck.
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post 16th September 2020 19:52
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hey Scozia-

it's great to read of your enthusiasm in taking it on; it doesn't sound too insurmountable as a project

what kind of little suspension details are outstanding..?
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post 17th September 2020 11:10
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I responded to her on facebook when she put it up but alas way to far away for me. Have resided to the fact there are no 145's left in wales or the South west! Enjoy.

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post 17th September 2020 19:03
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QUOTE(dante giacosa @ 16th September 2020 20:52) *
hey Scozia-

it's great to read of your enthusiasm in taking it on; it doesn't sound too insurmountable as a project

what kind of little suspension details are outstanding..?


It had advisories on wear to a lower front arm and front drop links. Car has only done about 200 miles since the last mot so might get away with those.


QUOTE(Daibill @ 17th September 2020 12:10) *
I responded to her on facebook when she put it up but alas way to far away for me. Have resided to the fact there are no 145's left in wales or the South west! Enjoy.


Yeah, she did mention someone from Wales!

They are rare beasties alright. Funnily enough though i have found someone who has 2 Cloverleafs sitting in their front garden not too far from me. I need to chap their door and see what the story is with them!
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post 17th September 2020 21:17
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QUOTE(rossoscozia @ 17th September 2020 20:03) *
It had advisories on wear to a lower front arm and front drop links. Car has only done about 200 miles since the last mot so might get away with those.
Yeah, she did mention someone from Wales!

They are rare beasties alright. Funnily enough though i have found someone who has 2 Cloverleafs sitting in their front garden not too far from me. I need to chap their door and see what the story is with them!


If you do, be sure to let me know laugh.gif unsure.gif
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post 17th September 2020 21:39
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haha-

the ball starts rolling... biggrin.gif
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post 7th October 2020 21:33
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Hi All, it's been a quiet 3 weeks for the 145. I've been focussing on my garden doing some major work so the car has been parked up at my folks house to free up some space in the driveway for skips, aggregates and topsoil! I fitted a pair of rear tyres prior to its 'rest' and that has been it! The drivers door speaker cover was in the boot when I bought it and on closer inspection it's completely goosed with all 3 clips broken so I have managed to pick up a good second hand one and will fit it soon. Boot lock still needs adjusting....

I did pop over yesterday to check it was still starting ok after my flat battery a few weeks back and it started first turn of the key. I took it out for a half hour blast and it was great to be driving it again. It just makes such a lovely noise and puts a big grin on your face!
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post 7th October 2020 22:47
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Ha!

this is all great to read- I did think; (the way this post started) that it was going to be a expose of the suitability of the 145 for carrying paving slabs and trees and stuff like that!

(However; I shouldn't laugh; I had a complete pallet in the back of the 146 at the weekend for my Da's allotment!)

Where did you source the speaker grille from, Scozia?


yes; after not driving them for a while; it brings the terrific dynamics in sharp contrast, relative to what else you may have been driving.
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post 12th October 2020 20:28
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Oh no, despite its current 'shitbox' status I couldn't do that to it! That's what the Giuliettas for! I have to admit though i did use the 166 as a mobile skip to ferry 6 loads of horrible clay soil to the dump yesterday morning. It was bagged, but still....

I bought the speaker grills second hand from ebay. I did find new ones on here however: https://alfa-restoration.co.uk/shop/index.php?cPath=58 Lots of NOS stuff but some very pricey. Has anyone ever used them before? Seem to be London based.

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QUOTE(Daibill @ 17th September 2020 12:10) *
I responded to her on facebook when she put it up but alas way to far away for me. Have resided to the fact there are no 145's left in wales or the South west! Enjoy.


Hey! I'm in Wales. Wrexham area.


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post 24th October 2020 21:54
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So, finally got the car up on the ramp today to get a better look at it underneath and check out what it's needing for the upcoming Mot. Not good news unfortunately. Mechanically the car is not so bad but does need the parts changing that were advisories at the last mot. That's the nearside outer CV gaitor, the offside front lower suspension arm and both front droplinks. The front nearside tyre also has a tear in the sidewall and needs changed. The big issue is the welding it requires and the welding thats been done in the past.....

At last years Mot both front chassis legs got a mention as being corroded but not significantly weakened. I thought these might need welding now but they are sort of ok and should just need rubbing back and protected to stop them getting worse. The bigger issue is both inner front wings which have substantial rot in them. The worst one is the nearside which is rotten close to the front suspension mounting. I had bought the car with lots of welding done by the previous owner in the last 4 years by 2 Alfa specialists. The quality of workmanship from both is pretty shocking. They havent cut out the old metal and have simply plated over it leaving the old rust underneath. None of it has been seam sealed and the welds are like huge blobs of chewing gum. I never removed the side skirts moreso because I'm afraid of what i might find! The sills were replaced previously too but look very rusty already where you can see them. To do things correctly now it probably needs 2 new floorpans.

Add to all this that it needs the belts doing, wheels refurbed and the small matter of a full respray I'm not sure what to do with it now. It was always going to be a risky buy but I hoped if most of the welding had been done I could focus on the other things! Pretty gutted this evening sad.gif
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QUOTE(rossoscozia @ 24th October 2020 22:54) *
So, finally got the car up on the ramp today to get a better look at it underneath and check out what it's needing for the upcoming Mot. Not good news unfortunately. Mechanically the car is not so bad but does need the parts changing that were advisories at the last mot. That's the nearside outer CV gaitor, the offside front lower suspension arm and both front droplinks. The front nearside tyre also has a tear in the sidewall and needs changed. The big issue is the welding it requires and the welding thats been done in the past.....

At last years Mot both front chassis legs got a mention as being corroded but not significantly weakened. I thought these might need welding now but they are sort of ok and should just need rubbing back and protected to stop them getting worse. The bigger issue is both inner front wings which have substantial rot in them. The worst one is the nearside which is rotten close to the front suspension mounting. I had bought the car with lots of welding done by the previous owner in the last 4 years by 2 Alfa specialists. The quality of workmanship from both is pretty shocking. They havent cut out the old metal and have simply plated over it leaving the old rust underneath. None of it has been seam sealed and the welds are like huge blobs of chewing gum. I never removed the side skirts moreso because I'm afraid of what i might find! The sills were replaced previously too but look very rusty already where you can see them. To do things correctly now it probably needs 2 new floorpans.

Add to all this that it needs the belts doing, wheels refurbed and the small matter of a full respray I'm not sure what to do with it now. It was always going to be a risky buy but I hoped if most of the welding had been done I could focus on the other things! Pretty gutted this evening sad.gif


I've been meaning to email you back, Scozia; and I shall do; in the morning...
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post 26th October 2020 09:35
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Sorry to hear that! I hope though you decide to keep it on the road, but if not Iím sure itís parts will help keep the few remaining still going for sometime yet!
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