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Which car handles the best?
Which car handles the best?
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post 7th June 2005 17:09
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Which of the above cars handles best? Reason being I have owned at least 1 of each and want to see if my opinions are similar to others. My opinions are a bit different to the motoring press, I had a V6 156 with a sport pack and it was rubbish, going straight on when it shouldn't and once nearly killing me. The 145 and 146's I get on with much better, with lift off oversteer a possibility..
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post 7th June 2005 19:00
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QUOTE(symonh2000 @ Jun 8 2005, 06:09 AM)
Which of the above cars handles best? Reason being I have owned at least 1 of each and want to see if my opinions are similar to others. My opinions are a bit different to the motoring press, I had a V6 156 with a sport pack and it was rubbish, going straight on when it shouldn't and once nearly killing me. The 145 and 146's I get on with much better, with lift off oversteer a possibility..
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i test drove a 156, put it thru its paces, i dear say the 146 that i normally drive doesnt add up. I drove the sedan not the sportwagon, now all 156's have the sports steering package. which is light yet gives you enough feedback to know what your doing. the car had better balance and mad power throughout the rev range compared to the 146. it may have the longer wheel base when stacked up next to the 146.gif but its got the means to be mean in the bends.

love them both. but the 156 is far more refined and less raw. after a decent drive in the 156 i got back in the 146 and it felt spongy and a rough. but definitly sounded better at the lower revs smile.gif GO BOXER!!
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post 7th June 2005 19:38
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The 156 V6 sportpack is a death trap!!!! Above 100mph its so uncontrolled its unbelievable!!
I had to put 17" rims on mine just to keep the damn thing on the road. But the 2.0 156 handles bloody good.
The pick of the bunch is the GTV the twinspark will out handlle any modern alfa, GTA an all.


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post 7th June 2005 21:15
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post 7th June 2005 21:53
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QUOTE(V6 Inside @ Jun 7 2005, 07:38 PM)
The 156 V6 sportpack is a death trap!!!! Above 100mph its so uncontrolled its unbelievable!!
I had to put 17" rims on mine just to keep the damn thing on the road.  But the 2.0 156 handles bloody good.
The pick of the bunch is the GTV the twinspark will out handlle any modern alfa, GTA an all.
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My dad has a 2 litre spider, that handles really well, apart from a bit of shake on rough roads, but it isn't as bad as a lot would have you believe. I did have a 3 litre GTV 6 speed, and loved every minute, it handles the extra weight of the V6 really well, although it doesn't corner as well as the 2 litre, the extra grunt more than makes up for it.

The 156 V6 I had rode a lot better than the previous 146 I had, even with the sport pack, but the body control was appaling, it would bottom out all the time, reminding me of a Rover 827 I used to own years before. Funny that, havent they got a similar front suspension design?
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post 8th June 2005 08:29
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the 156 at high speed needs a lot of time and money spent on getting it to handle nicely when i first got mine it used to flop and bottom out all over the place sad.gif !! and wider proflies wheels is a must.

got to say the 145 2.0QV dose handel a lot better they got it right whit that one


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post 8th June 2005 12:15
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haveing drove the 156,? had a 1.8 on hire 4 a week,and a mate lent me his 2.0litre for a week,and had 2 145,cloverleaf,s,145 wins on short runs round town,but top end cruiseing 156 all day long,just got to have a go in a v6,156,????
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post 8th June 2005 14:40
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Never driven a 156, have been a passenger in a 2.0ts and it seemed to lack any
urge or power from the passenger seat.

So I'm siiting on the fence.


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post 8th June 2005 16:34
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QUOTE(dellsbells @ Jun 8 2005, 12:15 PM)
haveing drove the 156,? had a 1.8 on hire 4 a week,and a mate lent me his 2.0litre for a week,and had 2 145,cloverleaf,s,145 wins on short runs round town,but top end cruiseing 156 all day long,just got to have a go in a v6,156,????
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The 156 has a taller top gear, 3600rpm at 80 as opposed to 4000rpm in the qv thats prob why it cruises better.
I went from a 146ti to my 156 v6 and the 156 rides a lot better and has more poke at the top end, but has little midrange grunt, prob less than the 2 litre TS believe it or not, and as it needs revving it is thirsty too. Not one of Alfa's better efforts. The 3 litre is awesome in comparison with lots of midrange and better fuel consumption than the 2.5
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post 8th June 2005 16:51
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as i heard 156 handles better than 147 ,i don't know how that could be possible but was told so...
now if some of you (esp. rema altrough he has a heavier diesel) say that 145 2.0 handles better i am certanly surprised

maybe 145 handles better on tight bends but the 156 got to handle better at high speed wider curves? no?

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Also wanted to add that 145 handles alot better than the understeery 146 , esp the petrol class, tryed it out
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post 11th June 2005 00:01
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I think it is down the front suspension. The double wishbones on the 156 give it better wheel control and keep more of the tyres contact patch on the road, that is the theory any way. However you also get less suspension travel which means on a big bump the wheels are more likely to take off.. probably ok an a smooth italian road, not so good on our neglected tarmac.
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post 11th June 2005 00:23
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understeery 146.gif?

i got a boxer, and ive not had much trouble. Mind, if i take a nice tight corner and put my foot down 1/2 way through, the front tyres let out a nice little screech... pappap.gif
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post 11th June 2005 06:15
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I cant see how there is any real diffance between the 145 and 146. if one has understeery them so should the other. the only diffance is that the 146 is about 8" longer and weighs about 30kg more.

i have never driven a 156 to see how well they handle, so i cant say anythink on that matter.
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post 11th June 2005 15:25
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I have owned both the 145 and 146 and they do handle basically the same, except the 146 is a bit heavier and doesn't change direction quite as quick. I suppose you could say the extra metal on the 146 gives it more even weight distribution. I think you would have to be driving very hard on the limit to tell much difference. Other differences could be caused by driving a car on different makes of tyres or more worn shockers not the model of car. My first 146ti had knackered rear shocks when I bought it and oversteered all over the place..
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post 12th June 2005 13:02
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Maybe a track day out for alfa145.com to put it all to the test? huh.gif
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QUOTE(Hamish @ Jun 12 2005, 01:02 PM)
Maybe a track day out for alfa145.com to put it all to the test?  huh.gif
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sounds like a good idea, take some videos and post them, let me know the results
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post 15th June 2005 14:00
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I would love to take my qv on the track, trouble is i am not sure I could afford the tyres and fuel at present.. smile.gif
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post 15th June 2005 14:12
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Ive driven an early 2.0 156, great handling, very comfortable and a mad engine... streets ahead of the 145/6/5 in terms of refinemnet etc.. but perhaps not so focused for the real driver.
With a V6 up front the wieght will seriously comprimise the handling, having said that my 3.0L 155 is the best car ive ever driven around bends, except perhaps a porsche 968, but the 155 is far more involving to drive..
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post 15th June 2005 15:22
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QUOTE(Cream @ Jun 15 2005, 03:12 PM)
Ive driven an early 2.0 156, great handling, very comfortable and a mad engine... streets ahead of the 145/6/5 in terms of refinemnet etc.. but perhaps not so focused for the real driver.
With a V6 up front the wieght will seriously comprimise the handling, having said that my 3.0L 155 is the best car ive ever driven around bends, except perhaps a porsche 968, but the 155 is far more involving to drive..
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3 ltr 155 cream? I thought they only went up to a 2.5?
My 2.5 155 had mad power through out the rev range so I couldn't imagine what a 3 ltr would be like...are you sure there was a 3ltr?


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post 15th June 2005 15:40
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QUOTE(crit71 @ Jun 15 2005, 03:22 PM)
...are you sure there was a 3ltr?

Not as standard but Cream's is special, i'll leave him to tell you all about it gleam.gif
My boss's Porsche 968 was a sod to shake off round the twisties in my P4, i'm not convinced i ever actually managed it in the dry, even with 215 width tyres.
Of course, come the straights and i'd completely whip her butt. For having far better acceleration than me.
Hmm, i wish blink.gif

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